56L loader specs

[finspop]

Hi,

I have a '85 JI Case 1194 with the 56L loader. I have a one-ton pallet delivery coming, and I'm trying to determine whether or not this loader will be able to pick it up. I know it will be on the very edge of its capabilities, if it can do it at all, but I don't need to carry it far; just move from one truck to another.

Does anyone know what the lift capacity of this loader is? I've searched online to no avail.

Thanks!

 

[gladehound]

I don't know the loader lift capacity. But there are tricks you can use to move a pallet off a truck (or from one to another even) if the pallet is more than the loader can strait out lift the conventional way.

Slide the forks into the pallet. try to pick up the pallet. If it doesn't go, dump while lifting, the ends of the forks will contact the truck bed and the side of the load near the tractor should rise because 1. you're only lifting one side 2. you're using all four cylinders to lift it. Once that side is a few inches up. Curl the other side up. If you cannot curl it up, put a pipe near the center of the pallet (under the pallet) and lower the loader arms slightly while curling. This will level the load. Now simply back up. The pipe will just roll out. Obviously this will only work if the truck you are moving it to is no higher than the first truck. But there are ways to get around that also. Don't do this technique unless you're fairly close to being able to lift it the normal way. you don't want to break anything or flip the tractor. Make sure you have a big weight on the 3pt. Good luck!

 

[LD1]

A lot of older farm tractors with loaders didnt list the specs. And the ones that did, it is almost impossible to find that spec anymore.

But one thing you can do is calculate the capacity. It is easier than most people think to get a real close ballpark.

What you need to do is measure a point on the loader bucket or even the pin. Measure the height to ground. Then measure how far out the lif cylinder is extended.

Now raise the bucket a couple of feet and re-take those same measurments.

What you are trying to do is find the ratio of cylinder travel to bucket travel. For example, if the cylinder moves 5" and the bucket moves 20", that is a 1:4 ratio, or 25%.

Now what you need to know is cylinder size AND operating pressure. So lets assume a 2" cylinder and 2250psi pressure. Each cylinder will have a force of ~7000lbs. Double that because you have 2 cylinders. That is 14000lbs. If you have that 25% ratio (which is close for most loaders)...14000 x .25 = 3500lbs lift at that point you measured for the ratio minus the weight of the loader and bucket. This will get you a close idea.

And you probabally already know that bolt on pallet forks will give you LESS capacity than a real set of forks that replaces the bucket. Because you loose the weight of the bucket AND you also bring the load closer to the cylinders.

AND remember to have pleanty of ballast out back:thumbsup:

 

[J_J]

Add some extra weight like a bush hog, in case you can lift. If the relief sounds off, you are at your limit. How critical is the load? You might be able to use the forks to lift some what, and slide the pallet down a set of ramps.

If it can barely lift, and you have a back guard on your forks, curl the forks up to a safe position, and that will move the center of gravity.

 

[finspop]

Great feedback, thanks to all. I'm going to give it a shot. Flat ground, not much height involved, little travel. They put this loader on many much larger tractors (up to about 80 horse), and it's always done everything I've asked of it, so I'm thinking it'll be up to the task.

Thanks again!

 

[finspop]

Forgot to mention my tires are loaded and I have a large forestry winch on the back for counter balance.

 

[finspop]

Figured I'd report back if anyone is interested.

The 56L would NOT lift 2,000 lbs with chain on forks. It would partially curl it, but I couldn't get any vertical on it. Fortunately, I had my neighbor there for back up with his big Deere...

Afterward, I took bags off two at a time to see what it WOULD life. 1,600 is the answer. I suspect it would've done the 2k with a set of actual pallet forks, rather than the clamp ons.

I'm still fairly impressed that it would do 1,600. This is a very basic, old tech tractor and loader.

Thanks again for the replies.

 

[J_J]

finspop,

Thanks for the feed back.

 

[chetm]

I have to make a set of forks fork for mine 56L also, anybody have pictures or drawings of their set ups?