790 3PH lower arm stability

[alw]

I have a 790 with 220 hrs that I purchased new with a 60" Box Scraper, Top and Tilt, 300 FEL, 60" Disc, 7 Backhoe, and Post Hole Auger. I am having problems with the sway chains on the lower arms. With the tilt in the third hole out and the sway chains in the first, the tilt covers the second hole and the sway chains are as tight as they can get and have stretched so out that the drag bars rub on the tires when it sways back and forth about 6".

Has anyone else had this problem or do you know of a solution. I can't get any satisfaction from the Dealer.

 

[alw]

I have a 790 with 220 hrs that I purchased new with a 60" Box Scraper, Top and Tilt, 300 FEL, 60" Disc, 7 Backhoe, and Post Hole Auger. I am having problems with the sway chains on the lower arms. With the tilt in the third hole out and the sway chains in the first, the tilt covers the second hole and the sway chains are as tight as they can get and have stretched so out that the drag bars rub on the tires when it sways back and forth about 6".

Has anyone else had this problem or do you know of a solution. I can't get any satisfaction from the Dealer.

 

[beenthere]

Sorry, but I couldn't follow the problem. Maybe someone else can.
Is something bent?
Maybe a glitch caused by the t-n-t?
Maybe a picture to see the problem?

 

[beenthere]

Sorry, but I couldn't follow the problem. Maybe someone else can.
Is something bent?
Maybe a glitch caused by the t-n-t?
Maybe a picture to see the problem?

 

[RobS]

Not sure I follow either. I have a 790 but no top/tilt. As far as I know, my sway chains only have one hole to choose from. Maybe your setup is entirely different? Any chance you can post a picture? If it would help you I'd be happy to post some pics of mine this evening /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[RobS]

Not sure I follow either. I have a 790 but no top/tilt. As far as I know, my sway chains only have one hole to choose from. Maybe your setup is entirely different? Any chance you can post a picture? If it would help you I'd be happy to post some pics of mine this evening /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[alw]

When the sway chains were new, I tightened them up evenly to minimize the sway and both turnbuckles on both chains only had about a half inch left to tighten. They continually got looser and finally the chain link on one side streatched so far that if broke and I had to replace it with another link. The other side continued to stretch and all of the holes throughout the link have elongated adding to the stretch and loosening problem. Finally they stretched so far that they couldn't be tightened enough to keep the implement from hitting the tires and I had to replace them with a new set. $188 later. Now because of the elongated fittings that remain I have even less ability to adjust the chains and I think they are already beginning to stretch. The picture is of the new set.

 

[alw]

When the sway chains were new, I tightened them up evenly to minimize the sway and both turnbuckles on both chains only had about a half inch left to tighten. They continually got looser and finally the chain link on one side streatched so far that if broke and I had to replace it with another link. The other side continued to stretch and all of the holes throughout the link have elongated adding to the stretch and loosening problem. Finally they stretched so far that they couldn't be tightened enough to keep the implement from hitting the tires and I had to replace them with a new set. $188 later. Now because of the elongated fittings that remain I have even less ability to adjust the chains and I think they are already beginning to stretch. The picture is of the new set.

 

[RobS]

I can't know for sure but I can think of a couple of possibilities. One is that you are overtightening your check chains. As the tph moves through it's range of travel, the chains will tighten/slacken some. If you tighten them at their loosest point they will be overly tight when they get to the tightest point. Next time you hook up, check your chains throughout the range.

Another possibility is the implement you are using is putting strong side-loads on your hitch. I can only imagine a ground implement such as a plow or disc doing this and then only if you turn without raising it.

A third possibility is that mine is doing the same thing and I just haven't noticed. I'll have a look /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[RobS]

I can't know for sure but I can think of a couple of possibilities. One is that you are overtightening your check chains. As the tph moves through it's range of travel, the chains will tighten/slacken some. If you tighten them at their loosest point they will be overly tight when they get to the tightest point. Next time you hook up, check your chains throughout the range.

Another possibility is the implement you are using is putting strong side-loads on your hitch. I can only imagine a ground implement such as a plow or disc doing this and then only if you turn without raising it.

A third possibility is that mine is doing the same thing and I just haven't noticed. I'll have a look /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[alw]

Your second answer is most likely the reason I am having trouble, because I use the Disc and a Box Scraper with rippers most of the time. I don't turn with the Disc down but have to sometimes with the Box Scraper while contour grading for landscaping.

I have checked out other tractors in the 3000 and 4000 series and found that they have a superior system. Only the 700's and 900's and below use the chain stabilizers. All of the larger tractors use a fixed pin system that adjusts by dropping a pin into a hole on a steel bar that is attached to the axle. No stretching.

 

[alw]

Your second answer is most likely the reason I am having trouble, because I use the Disc and a Box Scraper with rippers most of the time. I don't turn with the Disc down but have to sometimes with the Box Scraper while contour grading for landscaping.

I have checked out other tractors in the 3000 and 4000 series and found that they have a superior system. Only the 700's and 900's and below use the chain stabilizers. All of the larger tractors use a fixed pin system that adjusts by dropping a pin into a hole on a steel bar that is attached to the axle. No stretching.

 

[GONO2]

I have probably 75 hours of just box blade use and have not had this problem. I only keep mine tight enough to keep it off the wheels though.......

 

[GONO2]

I have probably 75 hours of just box blade use and have not had this problem. I only keep mine tight enough to keep it off the wheels though.......