89 316 issue

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farmerjim

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having an issue w/ my 89 jd316 w/ an onan. was mowing last weekend and the battery light came on, i thought it was the battery as the one in it was about 4yrs old it was in it when i got the 316 used. i finished mowing and put the battery on charge, but the battery wouldn't hold a charge, got a new battery and the light still stays on. i don't have a repair manual for the 316 i was wondering where do you test to make sure the stator is charging and or the voltage regulator is to test that. i tried testing across the battery while running but my meter shows same voltage as it did w/ out running. thanks for any help.
 
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I would think you would read about 14.1 volts across the battery while running. Possible regulator/alternator problem. someone on this Forum may have a schematic for you.
 
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Hello Jim
I do not take credit for this.
It's from a member on another forum.


With the tractor off and not running and the key in the off position, unplug the outer two leads from the voltage regulator. These are the stator leads. Use a digital meter, and check each lead for continuity to ground. There should be no continuity. If there is, it indicates a short in the stator or the stator leads, in which case, you'd need to replace the stator.

Next, you need to check the resistance (ohms) between the two leads. For a P218G "A", the resistance should be 0.06 to 0.10 ohms; for a P218G "B" or "C" - 0.10 to 0.19 ohms.

So if that checks, you need to fire up the old 316 - stator leads are still disconnected. With a digital volt meter, check the AC voltage coming off the leads. A minimum of 28 VAC is needed. Upper 30s to low 40s is more common. If you get less than 29 VAC, the stator is most likely weak. In fact, low 30s, while not the end of the line for the stator, would certainly make me consider changing it. For a P218G "A", the AC voltage should be 28 to 41; for a P218G "B" or "C" - 28 to 57.

Now, if the stator checks o.k., you next need to check the voltage regulator. Whatever you do, always make sure the voltage regulator is securely mounted and the attaching sheet metal is as well. A poorly grounded voltage regulator will lead to burnout. With the tractor off, not running and the key in the off position, reconnect the outer two leads to the regulator. Then, disconnect the middle lead.

You are going to check this middle lead for Volts DC. Using a digital volt meter set for DC voltage, make sure the black probe is touching a known solid ground point on the tractor. I prefer the engine heads or block.

Start the tractor and put at full throttle. With the negative probe in ground contact, connect the positive (red) probe to the middle terminal on the voltage regulator. You should be getting a reading of at least 13.8 volts, and upwards toward 14.5 to 14.7 would be ideal.

Hope it helps you.:)
Greg
 
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thanks for replys. looks like the stator is gone bad. is there a special wheel puller needed to remove the mower belt pulley? to get to the stator. it will probably cost an arm and leg from jd if they even still have that part.
 
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Hi farmerjim,
is there a special wheel puller needed to remove the mower belt pulley? to get to the stator.
I don't follow your question. The stator is behind the flywheel. You have to remove the engine to perform this job. You really don't need to fool with the pulleys at all.:) Picture is with flywheel removed,and yes,you do need a puller to get the flywheel off.:(
Onan has a website for parts. I paid 44.00 and some change for the stator.

Onanparts.com, Your Onan Parts Solution

Greg
 

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thanks again glc thats what i meant. you need a wheel puller to pull the flywheel. talked to my uncle yesterday and he has a repair manual i will be borrowing and he said on his 83 318 had an issue w/ no charging and he pulled the flywheel and found all sorts of dust caked on the stator and cleaned it up and it was working again. i really hate to have to pull the motor but i need to get it fixed for use w/ my leaf vac.
 

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