9n Steering gear has lost a tooth. 'New' one?

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9n Steering gear has lost a tooth. \'New\' one?

Its the small gear that attaches to the steering shaft. One of the teeth is gone. The larger gears attached to the steering arms that run along side the tractor are fine. Its just the small gear on the steering shaft.
Where can I get another one?

How does this come off the shaft?

Are there any tricks to getting the steering wheel off? I took the one large cap nut off and there was a normal washer under it. Thats it. But the wheel just wont budge. Any tricks?

Thanks
Ken H.

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Re: 9n Steering gear has lost a tooth. \'New\' one?

To get the wheel off, first apply some penetrating oil.. If it is real rusty.. heat the joint with a propane torch.. then hit it with penetrating oil again and let it cool. That is a splined shaft. Many have had luck with finding a nut that will thread on the shaft.. and then using a gear puller.. tighten it a tad.. tap with a small hammer around the hub.. tighten a little more.. etc.

You could also put the shaft in a pipe vice or regular vice, and protect it with a thick cloth or leather, and try the same.. or simply try tapping around the hub with a tack hammer.. etc.

For replacement.. I'd contact John Smith...

Smiths Site

He has a quite a few parts from ford N series tractors.. including a set of sector arms ( which you said yours looked good).. perhaps he has the parts you need as well. Check the used parts listing on his site.. if you don't see anything.. email him.. he has some stuff not listed.

Next bet would be Don Barkley at:

Just8n's
He mainly sells new parts.. and undoubtedly has what you need NEW.. but email him and ask if he has anything used, as he also maintains a large used inventory that can save you a few bucks and get you out of a bind.

If those don't pan out, email back and I'll do some more digging.

Also.. if you don't know how to R&R the steering, grab a copy of an I&T FO-4 manual from TSC, or wherever... It is a good shop manual on the N's.. has an exploded parts diagram in the back of the book, etc. fo-4 costs about 30$ There is also a master parts catalog available for about 15$, however, many of us simply go to:

Carpenters Fords.

And download a copy of the tractor catalog that dennis has for ford N series tractors. The catalog is in pdf format, and is updated yearly.. its about 5 megs, but he has licensed most of fords books, diagrams, and even quite a bit of tooling. The catalog is almost a page by page representation of the master parts catalog. only a few diagrams are left out... but it is a free download. Also.. he is probably the biggest aftermarket parts maker for ford tractors... he says alot of stuff is 'exactly as original'.. he can say that as he has actually bought the patents for the parts designs, and much of the original tooling that ford used to stamp and cast their parts. Probably the only other parts manufacturer that comes close to the amount of ford parts he sells is TISCO. ( Much of the stuff you can get at Barkley's site is from tisco or Dennis.. prices should be pretty much identical on Barkleys and Dennis's site..
So go grab that free catalog, and an fo-4 if you need one to get the box back together and shimmed.. etc.. and track you down some parts!

( most of my tractors are ford..)

Soundguy
 
   / 9n Steering gear has lost a tooth. 'New' one?
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Re: 9n Steering gear has lost a tooth. \'New\' one?

Great! Thanks for th post. I had some other things come up and havent had a chance to get back to the tractor.

I will check out the links you sent and see what I can come up with!

I will keep you updated.

Thanks again.
 
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Re: 9n Steering gear has lost a tooth. \'New\' one?

Ok, looks like it is going to be around $65-$100.. and that is just looking real quick on the internet. No phone calls or anything. I guess not too bad.

But, the steering gear I need is part of the whole shaft, correct? So, that means I HAVE to take off the steering wheel to replace it.

Right?
 
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Re: 9n Steering gear has lost a tooth. \'New\' one?

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( To get the wheel off, first apply some penetrating oil.. If it is real rusty.. heat the joint with a propane torch.. then hit it with penetrating oil again and let it cool. That is a splined shaft. Many have had luck with finding a nut that will thread on the shaft.. and then using a gear puller.. tighten it a tad.. tap with a small hammer around the hub.. tighten a little more.. etc.)</font>

So, after I take the cap nut and washer off... ideally there is nothign else holding the steering wheel on the shaft? Just needs some 'gentle' presuasion? /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
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Re: 9n Steering gear has lost a tooth. \'New\' one?

Threaded and splined. Some may have had a key way.. but either way, the wheel comes straight up and off. I just pulled my 8n steering wheel yesterday as I broke my steering shaft this weekend. So I guess we are both doing steering repairs right now.

Make sure to check with John Smith at 8nford.com, we sometimes has good used parts.

For new parts, Don or Dereck at just8n's will treat you right.

Soundguy
 

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