I think I have read through every PTO generator question/debate on this site but I have question that I have not seen covered. I am looking at buying a Winco W10PTOS to connect to my JD 2320. I can get it either on a 2 wheeled trailer or on the 3 point hitch carryall style. Anyone see any reason to pick one over the other? I was leaning to the 3 point style but wanted to make sure I was not overlooking anything. Any help or insight is greatly appreciated.
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ishiboo
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I think you'd be happy with either. The big thing with the 2-wheel is you can move it with a small lawn tractor, truck, etc. The 3-point you would need to add a dolly under or wheels.
The 3-point would do much better in bad terrain, if that was ever necessary.
Sawyer Rob
Super Member
Also, the 3 point is "usually" smaller, taking up less room in storage.
SR
SR
My Winco/WinPower on a trailer has hiway tires on it. That means a neighbor or a friend or a stranger can tow it away to borrow it and not return it until a week or two after your own needs or a year after he replaces the bent pto shaft that fell off in transit. 3pt generally means it stays with or near your outfit.
I tow mine and sometimes run mine with my lawnmower on which I made up a 6 spline 540 PTO male drive. Mine's 50KW capacity but I hardly ever need 1/10 of that.
If you actually run the genny at full rated power output and do a sudden disconnect of the electrical load, an unrestrained unit can flip (roll ) over. The 3pt setup will prevent that.
I tow mine and sometimes run mine with my lawnmower on which I made up a 6 spline 540 PTO male drive. Mine's 50KW capacity but I hardly ever need 1/10 of that.
If you actually run the genny at full rated power output and do a sudden disconnect of the electrical load, an unrestrained unit can flip (roll ) over. The 3pt setup will prevent that.
buickanddeere
Super Member
Correction the 24 flywheel gross HP 2320 should be able to carry up to 12Kw of continuous load. Generators should be over sized so they are not continuously loaded over 80% of nameplate current.
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ishiboo
Platinum Member
Not sure what this means. The 2320's PTO is rated for 13kw, with losses/etc. you're looking at about 9-10.5kw max output from a generator. For standby/short term operation, loading it to 100% of its rated output will not be an issue. It's "prime" rating would be a lot lower, if it had one.
Sawyer Rob
Super Member
For "continuous duty", you should NOT pull out, more than 80% of your pto's max rating...
SR
SR
Thank you all for the great input. I was thinking the 3 point would be better for more compact storage. What I didn't think about is sudden change in load could flip a trailer. Sounds like for my needs there isn't any downside to not getting the trailer and just going with the 3 point solution.
9K is all I am going to be able to get out of the 2320. It is rated at 18hp at the PTO and with electrical and mechanical losses 9Kw is where I should be. I don't think I will use that much but it is a good small generator and will give me all of the power I need and if I upgrade my tractor someday I will still have some headroom to get more power if needed.
This generator is only rated for people running it 50 to 100 hours a year and isn't rated for "prime power". My use will be backup only and my model for use is fire it up, wash clothes, cook a meal run the freezer and fridge and then shut it down. With a big power outage I would probably only run it 3 hours a day.
9K is all I am going to be able to get out of the 2320. It is rated at 18hp at the PTO and with electrical and mechanical losses 9Kw is where I should be. I don't think I will use that much but it is a good small generator and will give me all of the power I need and if I upgrade my tractor someday I will still have some headroom to get more power if needed.
This generator is only rated for people running it 50 to 100 hours a year and isn't rated for "prime power". My use will be backup only and my model for use is fire it up, wash clothes, cook a meal run the freezer and fridge and then shut it down. With a big power outage I would probably only run it 3 hours a day.
Fallon
Super Member
The straighter the PTO shaft the better. A trailer will mean a longer shaft & potentially lessen the vertical angle. But if the trailer isn't straight or level could add angle. 3pt shouldn't ever have any horizontal angle, but a shorter shaft would exacerbate vertical offset issues. You can raise or lower the 3pt to get things as close to straight as possible though, depending on the feet on the 3pt frame.
Probably a lot more elbow room to hook up PTO with a trailer than fighting through the 3pt structure.
Mine is a trailer, but that has more to do with getting a good deal on a 30 year old PTO generator than what I wanted. I thought I wanted a 3pt, but now don't care.
Probably a lot more elbow room to hook up PTO with a trailer than fighting through the 3pt structure.
Mine is a trailer, but that has more to do with getting a good deal on a 30 year old PTO generator than what I wanted. I thought I wanted a 3pt, but now don't care.
buickanddeere
Super Member
A perfectly straight pto shaft and U-joints will cause bearing failures. The pto shaft u-joints must be in proper phase and operating at the same angle.
