ac 6070 hydraulic problem

/ ac 6070 hydraulic problem #1  

josh45685

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i have a 6070 that on start up the lift arms and loader work for a few minites then stop lifting.i have changed fluids and filters.any suggestions?
 
/ ac 6070 hydraulic problem #2  
I assume you're operating the loader with the remote valves, since the problem affects both loader and lift system. The main section of the hyd pump supplies both. The other pump section supplies power steering, which I assume still operates OK while this is happenning? If it does, it pretty much rules out a suction or supply problem as the pump sections have a common suction inlet. If one starves, they both will. It wouldn't hurt to check all the suction hose connections and give the hose clamps a twist or two, but it doesn't sound like that is an issue. I suspect the problem is in the remote stack. It's a power beyond type system, oil flow goes through the valve stack first, then to the lift. If the lift were the problem, the remotes would still work since they are first in line. The valves themselves are not prone to cause this type of problem without there being something unusual about how one or the other acts or feels when it is used. The relief valve is the most likely thing to check first. There are 2 o rings and backup washers that have been known to fail and cause enough internal leakage to be a problem. It may work for a few minutes until the oil warms and thins enough to start leaking by. The relief is threaded into the inlet section of the remote stack and can be removed as a unit for repair. You can get a kit for it which comes with the o rings backups a new spring and I think a new pintle. It's a Husco valve and parts are available.
 
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thanks for the info.do you know if the cab has to be removed to access the remote stack?
 
/ ac 6070 hydraulic problem #4  
Valves should be accessable from under the tractor, cab or platform, you get to crawl under it either way
 
/ ac 6070 hydraulic problem #5  
We kinda have the same problem where the Up-down don't want to work but the flip works fine so does the power steering. We have replaced the Return filter and the suction filter and then the differential oil. When we drained the oil there was pieces of rubber comming out of the differential, so I do not know what that means......any thoughts! After replacing the filters and oil.....still no better than before....so we need help! It is also a 6070.
 
/ ac 6070 hydraulic problem #6  
Don't know what your "pieces of rubber" would be other than possibly sections of O ring. There are O rings as seals on the lift piston and the cylinder head/control valve, probably 4" or so in diameter and about 3/16"or larger in cross section. Could you pieces be part of one of them?
 
/ ac 6070 hydraulic problem #7  
Thx, ya it looks like a square kinda o-ring and about 3/16" and grey'ish color....dies that sound right?
 
/ ac 6070 hydraulic problem #8  
No I don't think so. The O rings I'm thinking of will be black and not squared. The cross section would be round. At this point, if the problem is only in the lift system(steering and remote valves work?) you might try a simple aircheck. With the tractor engine off, remove the oil pressure line to the lift control valve inlet. Remove the hyd filler cap or plug, and set the lift control levers to the full raise position. Force compressed air into the pressure inlet port(a rubber tipped air nozzle pushed against the hole works great for this) and see if the lift makes any attempt to raise or if the air simply escapes out into the housing and out the filler neck. If you hear the air escaping with no lift action, you have a leak and will need to remove the lift control valve to investigate. It's not a difficult project unless you have a cab tractor.
 

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