Advice: should I trade my TC40DA for a Workmaster?

[motownbrowne]

You won't get any sympathy from me about trading in. You should keep that tractor and buy some old iron for plowing.

 

[Laminarman]

You won't get any sympathy from me about trading in. You should keep that tractor and buy some old iron for plowing.

I wasn't asking for sympathy but the reality is that two tractors takes up valuable space in the barn. And twice the maintenance. I see the point in a second machine, but can't find anything locally to drive or try.

 

[Laminarman]

This from the Deere dealer who will let me drive the 5055E this week, and I'll drive the Workmaster as well:

Engine:
Rated engine speed rpm
NH 2700
JD 2400 JD engine runs at a lower rpm to reach hp output ( less wear on internal engine parts, engine does not have to turn as fast.)

Fuel Tank cap:
NH 13.5 gal
JD 18 gal ( longer run time before fuel stop)

PTO horsepower:
NH 47.5 hp (Advantage, but tractor is much lighter, so takes less hp from the engine to move the tractor, leaving a little more pto hp)
JD 45 HP

Displacement:
NH 135 cu in 4 cyl
JD 179 cu in 3 cyl ( larger pistons and cylinder more torque power.)

Block Design:
NH- Parent Bore, cylinder is bored directly in cast iron block. (less costly to manf. limited to how many times engine cyl can be re ringed and bored. ( not that you would be putting that many hours on a tractor to have it re bored. maybe your grandchildren would have to deal with that, LOL.

Wet Sleeved- Cast iron sleeves that the coolant runs directly in contact with cylinder sleeves. also can rebuild the cylinders multiple times.

Fuel injection system:
NH- indirect ( fuel and air are mixed before entering the cylinder) Not as fuel efficient
JD – Direct ( Fuel and air are mixed at the top of the cylinder. Better combustion and fuel economy)

Max speed
NH- 20mph
JD- 18.7 mph

Weight:
NH- 4078 lbs
JD- 5070 lbs Wow, 1000 lbs difference, the more weight, better traction and stability on hills.

Wheelbase:
NH- 77.2
JD- 80.7 the longer base rear axle to front axle, the longer the more stable on hills.

Looks like the JD has more weight and frame and power with the larger displacement engine. The hydraulic specs are very much the same. The JD will have better traction and stabilty on the hills. Also the 5055E’s we have have 16.9 x 28 rear tires that are 2 “ wider than the 14.9 std. = better traction/stabilty.

 

[RobertN]

Can you sell the NH? My concern would be what you get from trade-in(ie low bluebook) as compared to selling it outright .

Getting a price on a Deere 5055E with loader. Would come down to comparing that tractor to the WM55 with loader and the transmission differences. And cost of course. Would trade in my Blue which is sad. Don't want to sound like a sissy but I got attached to her, she was around when we built our house and was the tractor my kids always went on rides on.

 

[Laminarman]

Selling it outright would be a consideration after seeing what they'll offer.

 

[Guesseral]

Why don't you try a boomer 50 with age tires, they have 47 HP?

 

[Laminarman]

Selling it outright would be a consideration after seeing what they'll offer.

The new Boomers? The dealer told me to stay away from them said they've had issues and not made the way they should be made.

I drove both the WM55 and the Deere 5055E. First impressions are that both are much more tractor capability than what I have. Second impression is that the Deere is a monster at a 1,000 more in weight. I think it would toss my 6' mower around like it's a toy. However, there is much I could do with that I can't do now. I like the build of the Deere better, but the size and features of the WM might be all I need and if it's a substantial price difference I may opt for the WM. I like the Deere, but would want the skidsteer front attach bucket (extra cost), telescoping lift arms (extra cost) and the tractor at base as quoted is already about $3,000 more. Depends on what each dealer offers on trade.

 

[downslope]

Let us know how it works out. Just went thru the same thing but 2WD, ended up with a JD 5045D.

Too bad you can't keep a 2nd used ag tractor around, anything Ford/NH, JD, Massey, White, etc. that checks out mechanically. Would you be leaving the loader on all the time when working field plots, plowing etc? Personally I don't like doing that type of work with the loader installed, so in that respect having 2 tractors is better.

Even a used NH TD model could be had much cheaper than a same sized TN/T4. They are an old school ag design, but do give you 12 forward and reverse with sync shuttle and sync gears. I think they stopped making them a couple years ago.