Tires ag/lug tires question

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alf7900

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how do the ag/lug tires (bar tread or ''v'' shaped) tires do on a dry lawn? how do they do on wet and or soggy ground? thanks alf7900
 
   / ag/lug tires question #2  
Traveling straight on a dry lawn is not a problem for a dry lawn. The mild impressions on the surface won't be very noticeable. The problem is tight turning. Then you will begin to notice scuffing of the grass and ground.

In wet ground or loose soil, I would guess they give 30-40% better traction than a R1 or turf tire.
 
   / ag/lug tires question #3  
It depends on several factors, the main ones being tractor weight, soil type, and drainage. A CUT with unloaded R1's will do little to no damage to a well drained, sandy-soil lawn. My FIL cuts a lawn like that with a 4500 lb tractor with R1's and I have never noticed any damage. My own lawn is not as well drained, with dark, rich topsoil and, except for mid-summer, I need turfs to avoid lawn damage. When you are off the lawn, in wet conditions, nothing provides traction like R1's. I have never liked R4's in non-industrial applications and consider them to be "the worst of both worlds", providing traction in the mud, little if any better than turfs, and doing nearly as much damage to soft lawns as R1's.
 
   / ag/lug tires question #4  
It depends on several factors, the main ones being tractor weight, soil type, and drainage. A CUT with unloaded R1's will do little to no damage to a well drained, sandy-soil lawn. My FIL cuts a lawn like that with a 4500 lb tractor with R1's and I have never noticed any damage. My own lawn is not as well drained, with dark, rich topsoil and, except for mid-summer, I need turfs to avoid lawn damage. When you are off the lawn, in wet conditions, nothing provides traction like R1's.
I have never liked R4's in non-industrial applications and consider them to be "the worst of both worlds", providing traction in the mud, little if any better than turfs, and doing nearly as much damage to soft lawns as R1's.
Where have i heard that?
 
   / ag/lug tires question #5  
how do the ag/lug tires (bar tread or ''v'' shaped) tires do on a dry lawn? how do they do on wet and or soggy ground? thanks alf7900

I have never liked R4's in non-industrial applications and consider them to be "the worst of both worlds", providing traction in the mud, little if any better than turfs, and doing nearly as much damage to soft lawns as R1's.

After this summer,I will have my own questions answered,and comments about the R4's. I've had my tractor for three months now,and only have seat time in snow,which all in all,considering no chains or wheel weights,I was somewhat satisfied how it performed in two feet of snow.:)

Greg
 
   / ag/lug tires question #6  
I've owned several tractors with both R1's and R4's. The R1's give the best traction without a doubt. If your usage is strictly ground-engaging farm work in the fields, then R1's are the only way to go. But the R4's perform very well too, particularly on CUT's used in the yard. I prefer the R4's for my application because the do a lot less damage to lawns and fields. They are MUCH wider than R1's and do a much better job distributing the tractor's weight, thus causing less turf damage. They float over wet areas in the fields much better than R1's, causing far less damage. Traction has never been an issue for me on any surface where I use my CUT's. Never had to use chains, even for snowblowing in icy conditions. The R4's are acually a tougher tire with more plys as well. Just my $0.02. :D
 
   / ag/lug tires question #7  
R-4's give better puncture resistance too because of more tread surface in contact with the ground. I have 10 ply R4's,rears and fronts on my L4350. Traction in mud is a problem as stated earlier. I just wait until it dries up a bit.............
 
   / ag/lug tires question #8  
I have R-4's and consider them to be the best compromise. They have more traction then turfs and tear up the turf less than R-1's.

Asking which tire is best depends completely on your land and tractor use. If you are not doing groung engagement work, stick to turfs or R-4's.
 
   / ag/lug tires question #9  
I have loaded R4s on my 4300, and they do plenty of damage on my rich, damp ground. There are long periods where I really can't use my tractor without leaving deep ruts, and I'm sure the narrow ag tires would be worse in this respect. Traction has occasionally been an issue in mud or packed slippery snow, and I've had to use my loader to push/pull my machine to get unstuck. I've also found in difficult traction situations that I get a little better purchase if I lower the engine RPMs quite a bit and use the high gear range (HST). For me the issue is weight and sinking into the soft ground, as opposed to tearing up chunks of sod, though the R4s do that a bit too.
 
   / ag/lug tires question #10  
I prefer the R-4's over the R-1's on the lawn. R-4's are wider than the R-1's I used to have. Do have less traction in the woods (but enough to do the jobs) with R-4's, and they are heavier ply so feel like they are better protected from stub puncture and thorns.
But wet lawns, a matter of degree of disturbance.
 

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