ak47 range report

[Soundguy]

I finally gave in and picked up a cheap ak47.. been thinking about one for years.. never got one.. though have a few SKS.. since after nov 08 military pattern rifles may get a bit stifled.. I figured.. now or never...

found a cheap ( and wanted cheap.. etc.. ) wasr 10/63 ( romanian, IMP by centuryarms ).

Looked good...

Mags are a lil loose in the well.. but not horrible

action seemd to function well with no ammo.. bolt closes full battery fine.. however.. when I released the charge handle to chamnber a round.. it almost closes.. but lakcks an 1/8 to 1/16 of an inch.. though could be knocked into battery... fired fine. I only fired a single shot.. same slight out of battery look to the bolt on auto reload..

.. got it closed.. and after than.. no problems... I figure it was just stiff .. after all.. it's a stamped reciever.. etc.. and from what I understand.. century installed alot of hand-fit tapco parts to them...

speaking of that.. i did notice one annoyance... last round in the clips ( 20 or 30/bananna ) would always have a feed failure.

Don't matter if you loded 5, 10, 15, 20.. etc.. last round in each clip fails to feed properly.. I have 2 clips.. both plastic followers are different.. and seem to let the last round set cockeyed.. etc.

I believe I read somewhere that these rifles were originally designed for single stack mags, and that century widened the well to allow for double stack mags.. my guess is all o of that accounts for the slight wobble inthe mag catch.. and the failure to feed the last round.. etc.

comments?

Oh yeah.. at 100 yards on iron sights, standing shooting position she stays on paper good 6" pattern.. consistantly ejects shells in about a 1' pattern approx 10' to the side and about 1.5' back from the shooter. No deformities, irregularities or marks in the shell casings noticed after ejection.

soundguy

 

[LMTC]

I assume you really mean an AKM or an MAK-90? Sorry, it just gets to me when media incessantly calls the modified, semiauto only version AKs (which, as I understand it, refers only to the select-fire military model). I've had more than I care to count, no Romanian (Rumanian?) that I am aware of. The Chinese milled version is one of the best, their stamped version is still decent. I've had Russian and Yugoslavian as well, and fired the Egyptian version (Maadi?). All functioned fine, no clip problems, no plastic followers that I recall either. I think most of my clips were either Chinese or East German. However....my last purchase was probably close to 10 years ago, my first well before that. I have always found them capable of surprising accuracy out to 100 yds plus....or essentially as far as I could reasonably see with iron sights.

The AK, MAK, and their variants are one of my favorites to shoot just for fun. Through friends I've fired Russian and Yugoslavian select-fire models, and of the weapons I've fired on full auto they were the easiest to control for muzzle rise and general accuracy (firing from the shoulder, not a bipod or the ground).

 

[czechsonofagun]

The magazine was always double stack.

Anyway. In my service we had Vz. 58 which looks similar, but it is a completely different gun. It was quite pleasure to shoot, with the folding stock or with the wooden stock. We used it to pouch roe deer in the forest around our barracks, it was very acurate.

My country has a long tradition in building weapons, Bren comes to mind..

 

[Podunkadunk]

From what I'm told, only the Russian variants come fully assembled in the box, all the others are added to to make complete. Just what I was told via various dealers.

Glad you ponied up and got one. Also, if you want more AR stuff, now's the time. Military surplus ammo, now's the time. High cap mags, etc., now's the time. Various "wicked" accessories, now's the time.

From what I speculate from stuff I've heard in the shooting forums, it will be in the first half of '09 before any of the banning starts becoming effective.

I guess you too have realized who the next C.I.C. will be too.

Don't mean to turn this into a politiko thread, God forbid there's a "bloody" internet argument amongst adults. So, I'll stop here, for good.

It's been fun!
-Podunk

 

[Jimbrown]

Ahhhh I really hate to do this ( the devil makes me do it) But as some what of a gun afectionato. AK's do not use CLIPS they use MAGAZINES. This is a clip. Sorry one of my pet peeves.

 

[gsganzer]

I'll probably buy a Yugoslavian AK with an underfolder stock at the next gun show. I don't know a whole lot about the AK's, but I think the Yugoslavian is supposed to be one of the better quality variants.

If there's anyone on here that has a lot of experience with AK's, what are some of the more desireable variants?

 

[Soundguy]

I assume you really mean an AKM or an MAK-90? Sorry, it just gets to me when media incessantly calls the modified, semiauto only version AKs (which, as I understand it, refers only to the select-fire military model). .

I identified EXACTLY what gun it was... A WASR 10/63

Here's the wiki details:

""The WASR series (Wassenaar Arrangement Semi-automatic Rifle) is a Romanian variant of the Avtomat Kalashnikov series of rifles originally from Russia""

Soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

The magazine was always double stack.

Ya may be wrong:

""Construction
These rifles are made with stamped receivers that were originally intended for single-stack magazines. The rifles feature chrome-lined barrels and wood stocks.

These rifles are imported by Century Arms Intl., where they are modified to be sold. It is there that they widen the magazine wells and install Tapco-compliant parts including gas pistons, fire control groups (i.e. trigger), and pistol grips.""

Soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

Ahhhh I really hate to do this ( the devil makes me do it) But as some what of a gun afectionato. AK's do not use CLIPS they use MAGAZINES. This is a clip. Sorry one of my pet peeves.

Hmm.. You know.. I'm gonna have to look.. I can't rememnber if I saw a rail well for a stripper clip feed or not ( similar to an SKS.. etc.. ).. I'm going to guess not though from the look of the reciever.

Also... jim.. I'm pretty sure most of us here know the difference between internal magazines.. detachable mags.. and stripper and feed clip systems.. but thanks for pointing out the details for those that didn't.

soundguy

 

[LMTC]

I identified EXACTLY what gun it was... A WASR 10/63

Here's the wiki details:

""The WASR series (Wassenaar Arrangement Semi-automatic Rifle) is a Romanian variant of the Avtomat Kalashnikov series of rifles originally from Russia""

Soundguy

WASR "series", yes, however, wiki also: "The WASR-10 is a post-ban version of the AKM assault rifle in 7.62x39mm caliber." AKM. I had no intention of getting into a disagreement with you, but rather trying to clarify, as the AK designation is misapplied often.