Alternator and Starter for 2013 Workmaster 40

[wursthorn]

In January 2018 I purchased a used New Holland Workmaster 40 and Loader that had 96 hours. I completely serviced it and now have 250 hours without any problems. However, I am preparing for when I have to do some parts replacement and a couple of items are a starter and alternator. The NH Starter P/N's are MT40006954 or MT40334005. The list price for these from NH are $470! I had just purchased a denso starter for a 1983 similar size kubota for under a $100. Needless to say I found the $470 unacceptable at best. I have found a replacement starter with these P/N's from DB Electrical for $215.70 which includes free shipping and one year warranty. Unfortunately they didn't carry an after market alternator. I haven't been able to find the OEM manufacturer name for these yet.

The NH Alternator P/N is MT40006956. Unfortunately DB Electrical didn't have this item and couldn't cross it. The list price for this is $500.96 !!! The Alternator is a 4 wire system. A single large wire for main power, a single black wire for? and a duplex colored wire for? I suspect these last three wires are for the Tachometer and Hour meter. BTW the Workmaster 40 is really a re-branded LS G3038. The part numbers are the same but with an LS prefix rather then MT. Has anyone any experience or knowledge buying an after market alternator to replace this P/N? When it warms up I'll remove the alternator to see if I can find any OEM mfg. etc on it. Nothing was on the sides that presented themselves.
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[showcattle]

Why not cross that bridge if/when you come to it? We've had three NH/Ford compacts since 1980. Ford 1100, NH TC21, and a T2210. Never changed a starter or alternator in any of them. Batteries are the most common. I put a water pump and a voltage regulator in the 1100. The two NH just got new batteries.

 

[RickB]

Best way to avoid paying high prices for something you don’t need is to leave your wallet in your pocket. If you have to buy parts, buy every control and safety switch on the tractor to have as spares.

 

[wursthorn]

Silvercattle ; Thank you for your input. Again if anyone has information regarding a good aftermarket source for starters, alternators, etc. I and perhaps other readers would be interested.

 

[MiserableOldFart]

Warning: rant.
The models keep changing and the parts do as well, so often, it's dizzying. They are making sure they never have another (real) 8n situation - a machine that is so popular for so long that 3rd party manufacturers jump in and start making stuff. Some of the CNH parts are so supremely expensive, that it boggles the mind. The example I use all the time are the two little orange plastic foot pedal pads for the treadle on my TC26DA. They last 2-3 years at best, and I replaced them once for $54 a pair (!) They are now like $60 and I absolutely refuse to ever do it again. I tried neoprene stick-on stuff that didn't work very well, but I'll find something. Of course, with the hundreds of pedal pads for cars out there you'd think something might fit, but I haven't had any luck. And they cost about 1/10th as much. Frustrating.

 

[ruffdog]

I just traded my 1999 TC33D and it never had starter/charging problems.

 

[wursthorn]

I just traded my 1999 TC33D and it never had starter/charging problems.

Miserableoldfart and ruffdog. Yes, after seeing the dealer price for parts for the New Holland I have been collecting sources for Items I may need at a reasonable price.

Most recently I found a very good price for plow parts just across the boarder in Canada. I was looking for points for a set of 3 bottom Massey model 74 plows I have. They are automatic trip and reset and have Sod (scotch) bottoms.

My net of the conversation I had with the owner was:

No matter the plough model, we have the parts for it! All our parts are excellent aftermarket and ONLY come from Canada, USA or Europe. Please contact us if you have any question regarding the model of plough or to order. We are there for you! 1-888-997-2624
Agri-Can
127 rue Junction
Stanstead Quebec J0B 3E4
Canada
Call us: 1-888-997-2624
Email us:____________________

Their URL Is___________________
I called them and they can get the point. The number that agrees with the one I have is:
661-685 MI He said It is a model FF8
If I type this into their search window it brings up a picture of the point.

It is a cast point so generally not weldable.
The cost for each is $42.50 cdn (less than $30 us) canadian plus tax.

 

[wursthorn]

Miserableoldfart and ruffdog. Yes, after seeing the dealer price for parts for the New Holland I have been collecting sources for Items I may need at a reasonable price.

Most recently I found a very good price for plow parts just across the boarder in Canada. I was looking for points for a set of 3 bottom Massey model 74 plows I have. They are automatic trip and reset and have Sod (scotch) bottoms.

My net of the conversation I had with the owner was:

No matter the plough model, we have the parts for it! All our parts are excellent aftermarket and ONLY come from Canada, USA or Europe. Please contact us if you have any question regarding the model of plough or to order. We are there for you! 1-888-997-2624
Agri-Can
127 rue Junction
Stanstead Quebec J0B 3E4
Canada
Call us: 1-888-997-2624
Email us:____________________

Their URL Is___________________
I called them and they can get the point. The number that agrees with the one I have is:
661-685 MI He said It is a model FF8
If I type this into their search window it brings up a picture of the point.

It is a cast point so generally not weldable.
The cost for each is $42.50 cdn (less than $30 us) canadian plus tax.

Miserableoldfart and ruffdog. Yes, after seeing the dealer price for parts for the New Holland I have been collecting sources for Items I may need at a reasonable price.

Most recently I found a very good price for plow parts just across the boarder in Canada. I was looking for points for a set of 3 bottom Massey model 74 plows I have. They are automatic trip and reset and have Sod (scotch) bottoms.

My net of the conversation I had with the owner was:

No matter the plough model, we have the parts for it! All our parts are excellent aftermarket and ONLY come from Canada, USA or Europe. Please contact us if you have any question regarding the model of plough or to order. We are there for you! 1-888-997-2624
Agri-Can
127 rue Junction
Stanstead Quebec J0B 3E4
Canada
Call us: 1-888-997-2624
Email us: info@agri-can.com

Their URL Is Agri-Can
I called them and they can get the point. The number that agrees with the one I have is:
661-685 MI He said It is a model FF8
If I type this into their search window it brings up a picture of the point.

It is a cast point so generally not weldable.
The cost for each is $42.50 cdn (less than $30 us) canadian plus tax.

 

[wursthorn]

Miserableoldfart and ruffdog. Yes, after seeing the dealer price for parts for the New Holland I have been collecting sources for Items I may need at a reasonable price.

Most recently I found a very good price for plow parts just across the boarder in Canada. I was looking for points for a set of 3 bottom Massey model 74 plows I have. They are automatic trip and reset and have Sod (scotch) bottoms.

My net of the conversation I had with the owner was:

No matter the plough model, we have the parts for it! All our parts are excellent aftermarket and ONLY come from Canada, USA or Europe. Please contact us if you have any question regarding the model of plough or to order. We are there for you! 1-888-997-2624
Agri-Can
127 rue Junction
Stanstead Quebec J0B 3E4
Canada
Call us: 1-888-997-2624
Email us:____________________

Their URL Is___________________
I called them and they can get the point. The number that agrees with the one I have is:
661-685 MI He said It is a model FF8
If I type this into their search window it brings up a picture of the point.

It is a cast point so generally not weldable.
The cost for each is $42.50 cdn (less than $30 us) canadian plus tax.

Miserableoldfart and ruffdog. Yes, after seeing the dealer price for parts for the New Holland I have been collecting sources for Items I may need at a reasonable price.

Most recently I found a very good price for plow parts just across the boarder in Canada. I was looking for points for a set of 3 bottom Massey model 74 plows I have. They are automatic trip and reset and have Sod (scotch) bottoms.

My net of the conversation I had with the owner was:

No matter the plough model, we have the parts for it! All our parts are excellent aftermarket and ONLY come from Canada, USA or Europe. Please contact us if you have any question regarding the model of plough or to order. We are there for you! 1-888-997-2624
Agri-Can
127 rue Junction
Stanstead Quebec J0B 3E4
Canada
Call us: 1-888-997-2624
Email us: info@agri-can.com

Their URL Is Agri-Can
I called them and they can get the point. The number that agrees with the one I have is:
661-685 MI He said It is a model FF8
If I type this into their search window it brings up a picture of the point.

It is a cast point so generally not weldable.
The cost for each is $42.50 cdn (less than $30 us) canadian plus tax.