Tiller Am I crazy? tiller question

[kcarver141]

I have a Kubota BX2230 and bought a used 48" Shibaura RS 2126 tiller. Are these things geared to spin as if the tiller is pushing you? (front to back) the tines are more like curved blades to a point. When spinning the point enters the ground last. If this is a wrong setup can anything be changed?

 

[Villengineer]

Sounds normal for most of the "grey" tillers. That's the way my Yanmar works.

 

[hotchkiss]

I don't have that model tractor, but guess it is less than 50hp. If so, the tiller will have a tendancy to push you. That is normal.

 

[xlr82v2]

Yep, that's standard rotation... the tiller "pushes" the tractor.

Without seeing a picture of your tines, it sounds as if they're worn out. They normally start out new with squared ends, and will wear back to a point at the end of the tine... which, from your description, is what you have. Post a pic of your tines, and we'll be able to tell for sure.

Invest in a set of new tines, and your tiller should perform like it was brand new.

 

[milkman]

Sounds normal for the tiller, blades are probably worn, as for the first question , can't answer that, but I'd think "no" since you have a BX2230, if you were crazy, you'd have bought something else.

 

[Pooh_Bear]

Ok, stupid question time.

If a tiller will push a tractor along,
then why can't one be used on an 8N.
Just put the tranny in neutral
and use the brakes to hold it back.

I already know it won't work
I just want to hear it from
people with more experience.

Pooh Bear

 

[milkman]

Ok, stupid question time.

If a tiller will push a tractor along,
then why can't one be used on an 8N.
Just put the tranny in neutral
and use the brakes to hold it back.

I already know it won't work
I just want to hear it from
people with more experience.

Pooh Bear

Or high speed travel in neutral with a CUT?

 

[RobJ]

I think the big key here is a BX2230, I imagine its a fun ride on that small tractor.

I don't see why you could not run one on an 8N. To heavy? PTO not powerful enougn?

To me they are just another pto driven implement.

 

[xlr82v2]

Ok, stupid question time.

If a tiller will push a tractor along,
then why can't one be used on an 8N.
Just put the tranny in neutral
and use the brakes to hold it back.

I already know it won't work
I just want to hear it from
people with more experience.

Pooh Bear

In "normal" soil, a tiller doesn't have enough "push" to push the tractor forward. In very hard soil where the tiller could grab hard enough to push the tractor, you'd have to know that the "grab" was coming so that you could apply the brakes at just the right time to only push the tractor forward just a couple of inches, instead of the few feet that you might get.

As far as why a tiller doesn't work very well at all on an N, is, just like a lot of jobs using an N tractor, you've only got 5 gears at most, and every single one of them is too damned fast. First gear at rated pto speed runs about 2.5-3mph, probably closer to 3, speaking from experience. I don't have a speed chart handy, but you can look up the numbers. They're just geared too fast to do a decent job with a rear tiller... it's an implement that they were never designed to use, like most PTO powered implements.

the Ford N series tractors were great tractors in their day... unfortunately their day was 60 years ago.

 

[greg_g]

Don't feel you're all alone in the stupid question department Pooh. I thought rotary tiller tines typically rotated opposite the direction of travel. Apparently that's cuz I never owned one. I just assumed they worked similar to a self-propelled garden tiller; chevroned drive wheels pulling forward, tines digging backward.

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