Another haybine question

[BryanM]

I started cutting hay with my older JD 1209 and I seem too be having a problem with hay getting stuck intangled and just plan wedged in the outside corner. To be more specific it gets wedged inbetween the rolls and under the bottom roll along the frame. Any Ideas???

My first thought is the hay is too wet and binds in that corner. 2nd I am going too fast which I slowed to a crawl as slow as my tractor JD 2155 will go. 3rd I am missing a bar on my front rail that is sort of a triangle that would guide the hay a bit into towards the center.

some more info so we can figure this out may help may not. My hay is abit thick lots of clover, grass alfalfa mix. Seems to be a bit stemmy. my field is flat.
O ya- I started cutting friday with a 30% chance of rain on sat it now has changed to 70%. with a few days after that are dry or are suppose tobe dry. I guess the good part is I only cutt three rows on the outter edge so the majority of hay is still standing. Only time will tell.

 

[Niji]

I've got a jd1217, which is basically the 7 foot version of what you have, I believe. I've had trouble with hay getting bound up in a couple of places, and sorted them out. I wasn't quite sure what your problem was from what you said. Do you mean the hay is wedged around the rollers? Between the end of the roller and the frame?

In wet, thick hay I sometimes get hay wrapped around the rollers, but I stop and it will spin off...sometimes I have to lift the machine and lower it which seems to help if the wrap is persistant. It is so infrequent now I haven't worried about adjustments.

However, if it was really bad:

I've had bearings on the rollers going bad that have added to the trouble. There are lock rings that define the position of where the rollers ride left-to-right, and the set screws can come loose and allow for the rollers to lose position making trouble. There also are settings for the spacing on the rollers which can be adjusted for the crop being cut--I think my machine has them even on decals under the hood which covers the gearbox on the left side. It may be that adjusting the rollers may solve the trouble for the hay you are cutting now.

As a side note, I have had the reel bushing on the side with the belt pulley go bad and actually cut the shaft in two like a lathe on the sheet metal (the pulley fell off!). The belt that drives the reel can be slipping, especially in thick crop, so see what the reel drive belt is up to. The moral of the story being that when I was getting the new reel positioned, I had it wrong at first and the crop did not feed into the rollers correctly. So, you might check for the reel adjustment to see if it is close enough to properly feed the cut hay to the rollers.

 

[BryanM]

I am sorry i dint describe the problem very well. The problem is the hay seems to get wedged in between the rollers and inbetween the bottom roller and the frame. Not so much the sides. I can tell when this starts to happen because I can see hay being thrown out the front back into the reel instead of into the wind row. I have raised it and stopped it does not clean out it wedges in their pretty good. May be the rolls have to much gap between them allowing to much hay threw. I also notice my reel starts too slow down so I think the hay wedged inbetween the rolls taked pressure of the reel drive belt allowing it tooslip the belt. But it oly happens in the outside crner.

 

[zzvyb6]

There are usually some optional parts that you can attach to the pushbar that will divert the hay at the edge more towards the middle of the mower. I made a new pushbar up from square tube (road sign scrap) and some old well pipe. The deflectors are made up from stock I bought at TSC. The stronger pushbar material also cuts down on the shaking that occurs at lower rpms. I wanted less shake to reduce the metal fatigue that ultimately kills the machine. I'll try to get a pic for you. The deflectors have to be set low to the ground in order to work properly. The factory one is not usually optimally positioned. The purpose of the deflectors is to comb the hay into the cutterbar area. They are a problem if you get to near a wire fence though. The outside one snags everything...

 

[Duffster]

JD makes Haybines?

 

[zzvyb6]

Although this is a NH front end, the JD equivalent would work the same way. The Junior Nation flag keeps it visible when in operating position and also keeps me from poking an eye out when working on the machine.