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bambam

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I have a question, or questions, similar to Laminarman.

In general, I would like a decent yard, meaning smooth, limited rocks, green and relatively complete grass, etc. Not a golf course, or the care a golf course needs, but something reasonably nice to look at that doesn't shake your teeth out when you mow or turn your ankle when you walk.

The land itself is hilly, grows rocks much better than grass, is full of ruts, and grass simply doesn't grow (nor anything else, other than the rocks) in large areas. Very patchy. Very rough. Soil is very hard. Rocks ranging in size from driveway gravel (1/2" - 1") up to two-fists cover the area. Runoff has created large ruts. It is former pasture land with a house built in the middle. I would like to work in about 4 acres of this type of land around the house. And I almost forgot, the soil is full of tree roots as well. The area is northeast Alabama, sort of the tail end of the Appalachian mountains.

I know I need to do several things:
- remove or break up the rock
- break up the soil
- get soil pH to something reasonable (unknown at this time)
- smooth and groom for proper runoff without damage
- plant a grass that will grow, and get it to stay in place until it can grow and control erosion.

I may have missed some things; please feel free to correct or add to. What I definitely don't know is the best way to do these things.

How do I handle the rocks? I have heard and read about the Harley Power Rake, among others, but I neither know exactly what it does, how it does it, or if a model will even fit my Kubota. I also know it is expensive, and rental is probably a better option. How does a power rake compare to a tiller, or a harrow? What does each do? I know any of the above can help with the hard soil by breaking it up, but which really works well for this purpose?

Oh, lots of questions, so little time.

What is the best way to test soil for pH? And what are the remedies for extremes? (I do know about lime). Any recomendations on a type of grass to grow in this area? Combination sun and shade, slope and semi-level, drought and disease resistent, etc. From some of the patchiness I am seeing, I think I have a slug infestation as well.

I think I can handle the groom part; I have spent a fair amount of time box-blading the 900 ft of driveway and ditches.

I have been searching for a book and/or information on modern implements for CUT's, with a clear definition of each, it's use, how it works, how well or poorly it functions, how to use each, etc. I did purchase the Compact Tractor book from this site before I bought my tractor, but I am looking for something with more detail. Same is true for some source of information on landscaping this type of situation. Any suggestions?

I know I could hire someone to do all this, but I want to learn how to do it for myself (more uses for the tractor!). I also don't suspect I could afford someone to come in and perform this work. As it is, my expectation is this project will take several years, both for finacial reasons and, well, grass doesn't grow on trees, or something like that.

Lots of questions, I know. My problem is I know a little bit, but not enough to feel confident about creating a plan, new implement(s) purchase, etc. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

I almost forgot the most important part: Kubota L3000DT, 5 ft box blade, middle buster, and 5 ft finishing mower.

Thanks;
Bambam
 
   / Another Novice... #2  
Hi Bambam. I don't think I can help you, but I noticed the reference to my previous post. I echo your need for a good text or manual. What I need is a "farming" textbook. For example I see a box blade, rear blade, front blade, loader, harrows all doing very similar, overlapping functions. Then you talk about planting and you can disc, drag with a harrows (rotary or chain or spike tooth...etc), plow with a moldboard plow or drawbar plow..or, hey, till it! There is a lot of room for spending money on implements you might not need. So yes, if you find a good source of information please let me know what it is.

As far as soil testing: I ordered a test kit from Whitetailinstitute.com (about $10) and had a comprehensive result in less than two weeks with fertilizer recommendations and pH. Just specifiy what you want to grow.
 
   / Another Novice... #3  
I think I would start with a rock rake to pull off the rocks and leave the dirt. I definetly wouldn't use a tiller on it until I had the rocks off. Then get your soil tested and talk to your county extension office to see what type of grass would do best for your soil.
 
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Thanks for the info. And if I ever find an implement info or farming "how-to" book, I will be sure to pass it on.

It sounds like a rock rake is in order for now (or when I can convince my wife it is really necessary). I have been wanting one to dress the driveway after box blading anyway.

Maybe the best approach is to do the rock rack this year, and maybe a tiller (or harrow, or disc) for next year. I could use the rippers on the boxblade as a first cut before the till....

I'm getting all excited just thinking about it.

Thanks all.

bambam
 
   / Another Novice... #5  
I am in a somewhat similar situation to yours, and while I don't know what seed and Ph is right for you area, I would strongly suggest that you consider renting a harley rake for a day. My dealer rents them for $175 a day. I have 4 acres to seed, and have a york rake and it just won't cut it for picking the rocks and prepping the seed bed.
Lar
 
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Thanks, Larry. I will check into renting the Harley rake.

Just out of curiousity, what tractor are you using with the Harley rake? Do you need hydraulic remote(s)?

bambam
 

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