Any recommendations

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bugstruck

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Nov 22, 2004
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578
Location
North Central Md.
Tractor
Kubota L3130 HST
Firstimer. My username says it. Got the need for some heavy, well somewhat heavy, metal and plan on making a purchase early next year. Found this website and the information I gleaned in the last couple of weeks incredible. Decided to join tonight and get in the mix.
Here's my deal. Have 3 acres on hilly terrain with about 40 to 50' elevation change. The property has a controlled planting (6' to 10' spacing in rows about 10 to 12' apart) of white pines about 30+ years old that were never thinned and are in the process of strangling one another out. I plan to continue mowing about 1/2 acre around the house with my Deere 325. Need to handle the debris from thinning and removal of at least 30 or 50 70' tall pines which will leave maybe a hundred or so to remain. Additionally I want to have the ability to dig and trench to at least 8' depth for future projects so a hoe and frontloader are a must. Need to plow about 400 feet of steep paved drive in Maryland. Additionally, need to excavate and relocate maybe 1,000 yards of soil onsite to get grades where I want them.
Forget the acerage. I have the equivalent of 10 acres worth of serious work here when you start looking at the topo changes needed. The old Construction Superintendent wants to call in the Excavator and do it all at once but the misses doesn't want to tear up the yard all at once and I don't want to deal with the major league soil stabilization etc. that would ensue. Although calling someone in would be the cheapest/fastest way. No surface rocks but lots of tight shale beneath. At my age all this will take 2 or 3 years to get it right. After that maybe some snow clearing, woods maintenance, and second drywell.

Been looking at John Deere 4410 and 4520, Kubota L3010, and New Holland TC33 and TC35. All with the assortment of Loaders, Hoes, and Front blades. Think the #'s are right.

Finally!!, All dealers /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gifare solid. Kubota and New Holland have the sharper pencils. Deere, however would be my first choice were $$$ of no issue. Short of a dozer, how would you go?

Thanks to all!!!
 
   / Any recommendations #3  
Well, one good thing. Your not going to make the purchase until next spring which will give you some time. I think you are in the right area as far as hp. I think a 30 to 35 will do the job. I see you did select one that is 50 hp. Not to big but can't use it in comparing apples to apples. If I was you I would write down exactly what you want. Then go to your dealers and start getting prices from them. Learn from them but don't listen to anyone that bad mouths the others. Only listen to his good points. Here you will find out which dealer is the most honest. That is the one you want to deal with. Bring your concerns back here. Sit on all of them and get a feel for which one fits your butt the best. Now take your prices into consideration. Price should be the last thing unless one of the dealers is way lower. Once you go through all of the above you will start seeing which one is best for you. That is the one to buy. All three of the ones you picked are good tractors and will take care of you for a long time.

Half the fun of owning is buying.

murph
 
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#4  
Murph, I've posted two times and none are taking so It's real brief this time. Appreciate the very good advice. If you get a chance check my 11:30 post to the Massey forum last night. Tell me at what point I'm up a tree. Better to know now. Have some Heavy Equip seat experience. No expert. Tractors.... never on a pure one until the NH TC33. Seemed fragile and light coming from HE. It is. I'll get past that.

What's your take on the Massey 1433? I'm told it's an all Iseki tractor. Has downpoints but it seems heavily built.

Thanks,
 
   / Any recommendations #5  
Bug; If you want BLUE, I'd suggest the TC35DA over the 33. The 35 is the next step up and with it you get a heavier framed and a larger tractor. You can also, with the 16LA loader, get a 72" bucket. This is my 2nd 35, and the same loader. Just my opinion, but all the big three have good machines. It all depends on which features on which machine YOU are comfortable with. In the end, I bought NH simply because I could get a better price thru my brother on the "A" plan. The green one was the next choice, but not comparably priced for me. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Welcome to TBN, and all carpenters are old at 40 /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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John, Appreciate the welcome! Your're reading my mind. I called the NH dealer and told him to do another quote for the TC35DA late last week. So far only he and one Kubota dealer seem truly serious about offering deals that could close. Could be the others aren't sharpening their pencils because I've been upfront that I'm in the next spring buy mode. I do like the 35. Allot! Here's what I have on a TC35DA:
Tractor and 16LA FEL w/ 72" pin-on bucket (not supersteer)
R4 filled tires
758 Backhoe and subframe/ 16" bucket
72" front mount blade w/ rubber cutting edge and subframe
predelivery ie. dealer prep I assume
Total before tax $28,698.00

Basically they have this package as list 35,096.00 less November programs (6,398.00)

Seems like a pretty fair quote base on what the others are doing.

The Kubota quote I got was for the L3130. I know the L3430 would be a closer match. Some of the attachments are not a direct line up either. I'm just throwing this in the mix cause I'd own this one too. Someone else may have a comment on this one. Here's the quote on that.
L3130 HST
R4 filled tires
LA 513 FEL w/ quick attach and 60" bucket (was thinking narrow that day)
BL 4690 Backhoe w/ 16" bucket
84" Front P/A??? blade w/ quick attach (thought they quoted a 72" blade. That may be a dealer typo??
Total before tax $27,720.00

The John Deere quotes still have to be deciphered but I left them at work cause I saw their tractor with loader numbers in this range with no snow blade and no Hoe and didn't want to be depressed over the Holiday.

Thanks, John

Happy Thanksgiving to All!
 
   / Any recommendations #7  
Seems like you have a big project ahead of you. I would lookat Case IH DX45, NH TC45DA, JD 110, & Kubota L39 or L48. These machine have more features that would be better for your projects. If you are going to chose Case or NH I would recomend you look at the Bradco 509 backhoe. It is compareable to the JD110 in power. Case DX 45 Tractor Loader Backhoe
 
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#8  
TV has it right. Those equipment recommendations make complete logical sense to me given my requirements. Anybody know how much a divorice is in Maryland?

I had thought about the 110 but didn't know about the machine you have/ recommend. I'll have to have a look of course and call my Attorney..... just in case I can't help myself and one of these show up in the driveway.

Am I correct that these machines TV is discussing have fully functional 3 point/ pto systems?

Again, appreciate all the advice and good ideas.

Thanks much guys!
 
   / Any recommendations #9  
Hey Bugstruck ,
Have you given Kioti any thought ? I am a retired and worn out old equipment operator who loves his new Kioti DK45 TLB . Price was right also . It is a lot of machine for the money . Good Luck ,there are a lot of great color tractors to choose from .
Big Al
 
   / Any recommendations #10  
Bug; Man! Now I really feel inadequate /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif The backhoe is the next thing I want. "A" plan price on the hoe was over 7K. So I passed on it for now. Could sure use for stump removal tho! I think I would go with the combination you mentioned. Does not sound like a bad price. Back to the hoe.[pun?] I think I'd want the subframe mount. I don't know if that is what Bradco offers, but those lift arms could take a beating if using a TPH mount. That's only my opinion! Good shopping /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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