Any Room in Dealer Pricing

[bp fick]

9% off list is about right for the dealers to give as your initial quote.

However, getting 15%-17% is going to take some patience. There also seems to be a regional difference in these reductions. In some parts of the country, dealers just do not, will not, give those levels of discounts. Apparently, the Texas guys are reporting it is possible for you there. That is good news.

Also, be advised that sometimes it depends on model availability, age of unit, dealer's needs, and so forth.

 

[MBDiagMan]

For reference to those reading this thread, today I bought a John Deere 5045D with a 512 loader. List price $20,011, purchase price $17,195. This is 14% off of list price.

I did lots of calling around and came across a HUGE, high volume dealer that quoted me this price. In the past I have gotten my best car and truck deals from the large, high volume dealers, and I guess that today I proved that to hold true with tractors as well.

Thanks again for all the replies. Without them, I would have had no idea what was possible.

 

[radman1]

I have bought a JD 3720 and JD 4520. The 3720 was 18% off list, and the 4520 15% off list. 2 different dealers. Any options on both tractors installed by dealer were also the same % off and no labor to install the options. However, I had several quotes that were 9-10% off list and I don't think they were going to move much.

By the way, the JD 4000 series are JD made engines. The 3000 series are yanmars. JDs are assembled in the US (Georgia) and by that, the entire tractor is assembled here. I don't know of any one else made in the US - by that I mean nearly completely or completely assembled in the US. I believe Kubotas are made in Japan, shipped here, tires and loaders put on here.

 

[MBDiagMan]

Radman,

Do you happen to know where the 5 series tractors are built? I'm sure I'll find this out next week when it's delivered, but I'm just curious.

 

[Spencer C]

Radman,

Do you happen to know where the 5 series tractors are built? I'm sure I'll find this out next week when it's delivered, but I'm just curious.

5000 series Deeres are Indian tractors. I believe the city is called Pune.

 

[bp fick]

I have bought a JD 3720 and JD 4520. The 3720 was 18% off list, and the 4520 15% off list. 2 different dealers. Any options on both tractors installed by dealer were also the same % off and no labor to install the options. However, I had several quotes that were 9-10% off list and I don't think they were going to move much.

By the way, the JD 4000 series are JD made engines. The 3000 series are yanmars. JDs are assembled in the US (Georgia) and by that, the entire tractor is assembled here. I don't know of any one else made in the US - by that I mean nearly completely or completely assembled in the US. I believe Kubotas are made in Japan, shipped here, tires and loaders put on here.

Kubota does indeed completely assemble some tractor models in Georgia, not merely put on tires. Not a lot of models, but a few. Granted, while there is some North American content, the bulk is indeed from Japan.

Again, on the Deere 4000s, check their website. It states the tractors below 43 hp are Yanmar. Above 43 hp, Deere. It's there in black and white.

Finally, in this brave new international, global market world, none of this matters. I do not mean to sound argumentative. No axe to grind.

 

[whodat526]

dont believe everything u read they will lie just because they say they build that tractor in the U.S. does not mean they do major companys will lie and john deere is the worst about it see if they will tell u how many tractors mahindra built for them and also zetor built for them

 

[MBDiagMan]

Kubota does indeed completely assemble some tractor models in Georgia, not merely put on tires. Not a lot of models, but a few. Granted, while there is some North American content, the bulk is indeed from Japan.

Again, on the Deere 4000s, check their website. It states the tractors below 43 hp are Yanmar. Above 43 hp, Deere. It's there in black and white.

Finally, in this brave new international, global market world, none of this matters. I do not mean to sound argumentative. No axe to grind.

Thanks for the response. Yes the 4000 series Yanmar's are Japanese from what I've read here and elsewhere. The 5045D, however, is a 5000 series. As I understand it, this 45HP engine is the lowest horsepower version of the JD engine of that category, not a Yanmar. I might be wrong about this, but that's what I've read so far.