Loader Anyone have a Ford 1700, or similar, with FEL AND power steering

[Antique Equipment Tester]

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I have a Ford 1700 with a power steering option by duBro, a California company, and a FEL. The FEL has a dedicated but optional hydraulic pump that is causing me some grief. I'd like to plumb the FEL into the tractor's hydraulic system as my tractor use is extensive and my FEL usage is occasional. If someone has this configuration, especially if they've got the duBro aftermarket power steering option, as its quite different than the pics I've seen of the Ford factory PS option, I'd appreciate a description or picture of how its plumbed. And their happiness with the hydraulic responses of the FEL, PS, and 3 point hitch would be nice.

In searching this forum, I've seen a few threads regarding blown steering boxes and how PS could be added - this duBro solution is pretty slick, and doesn't require replacing the Ford steering box with something $$$different$$$. The model # on mine is: F1700-4. Obviously Ford 1700, Rev/config 4.





Mine is currently plumbed as follows:
FEL - supply from dedicated front PTO pump, return to dedicated reservoir for that PTO pump.

Tractor Hydraulics - adapter block off RHS under seat from the 3 point, this provides 2 hoses (supply/return) which normally would be FEL, which attaches to another block with 3 ports, 2 that connect to the supply/return adapter block, and a 3rd which goes to the spool valve for the power steering. The PS has dedicated return line back into the transmission housing. See pics below; in closeup of PS adapter block, the top and right hoses go to 3 point supply/return adapter block, left hose goes to spool valve on PS, and also can be seen in background is the dedicated return line from PS back into transmission case. Bottom of this block has a large hex bolt also, I believe this 3 port block is a pressure regulator for the PS system.





So my question is where should I tap in the supply/return for the FEL in this system? Would prefer someone with this exact configuration to respond with something that they know is working on their's. Thanks, All - Doug

 

[Don in Hickory]

I have a old ,Ford 1510 do you think your ps is compatible ?

 

[CoyPatton]

I do not have your tractor or system. However, I have done some hydraulic work over the years. My suggestion is that you put a Tee into the pressure side not going to your PS and a Tee into your return line on the port block. Run lines from these 2 Tees to the control valve for your loader. This should cause you no issues as you are unlikely to be operating your loader and 3PH at the same times.
If this is not to your liking then on the supply to the port block, take that line to your loader valve. Bring the return line back to the port block.
One concern as you do this would be if your 2 systems fluids are compatible with each other as they are now independent systems. The big concern is for your tractor components.

 

[87corvette]

I just did a total engine rebuild on my 1979 ford 1700 engine runs great now the issue I am having is before I rebuilt the engine the hydraulics worked great and now engine is done my 3point does not work I did bleed it up to the pump by loosening the smaller banjo bolt an cranking it till flowed fluid an tightened bolt as it was flowing out but still no luck on 3point working.

If anyone owns a 1700 an needs to rebuild the engine I know a couple good places to get parts