Jrus
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Has anyone made there own third function valve for the loader. Iv got a 45hp NH and have been thinking of putting some valving together to do it. Also is there anyway to make your own rear hyd ports for 3 point implements.
anyone made a 3rd function loader valve
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I am not sure if this is what you mean but I added a valve and second joy stick to control my grapple
I am sure others have done it with an electric diverter valve and a switch on the loader control lever.
And yes you can add rear remotes. You would do it like my grapple valve except put the QD's in the rear and probably put the valve(s) and control lever(s) somewhere near the seat.
gg
I am sure others have done it with an electric diverter valve and a switch on the loader control lever.
And yes you can add rear remotes. You would do it like my grapple valve except put the QD's in the rear and probably put the valve(s) and control lever(s) somewhere near the seat.
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ya really don't make your own valves for tractor hydrualics. pressure and tolerance levels are really up there. you can buy various 3rd party kits. newer tractors you might be able to buy a 3rd function kit for the FEL (front end loader) that does not involve making brackets and like.
FEL loaders normally have either 3 levers (kinda rare these days), to a joystick with a button (button being 3rd function)
Surplus Center and look into the hydrualic listings. lots of valve options there.
most tractors you can add additional rear remotes. most tractors have some sort of factory kits for up to 3 rear remotes. you can also get 3rd party setups as well.
double check type of valve you want. some have a detent / notch to hold stuff, another might have a "float abilty", another might have some sort of screw or set piece to hold lever in wanted position. there might be a "regen function", and perhaps valves more noted for hydrualic motor vs generic hydrualic cylinders. (motor valves more likely have bigger internal passage ways. to reduce pressure of hyd oil going through the valve)
normally when you start adding rear remotes, you start looking at "stack valves" due to not a whole lot of room to place but valves and the levers, and then for some folks, they need to run some short hoses from the valve stack to another location on rear of tractor for the QD (quick disconnects).
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with your questions of front and rear.... going to push ya towards looking at a TNT (top and tilt) for 3pt hitch, basicly a hyd cylinder replaces top link and 1 of the side links of the 3 pt hitch. so you can adjust 3pt hitch from seat of tractor. vs trying to mess with turn buckles.
FEL loaders normally have either 3 levers (kinda rare these days), to a joystick with a button (button being 3rd function)
Surplus Center and look into the hydrualic listings. lots of valve options there.
most tractors you can add additional rear remotes. most tractors have some sort of factory kits for up to 3 rear remotes. you can also get 3rd party setups as well.
double check type of valve you want. some have a detent / notch to hold stuff, another might have a "float abilty", another might have some sort of screw or set piece to hold lever in wanted position. there might be a "regen function", and perhaps valves more noted for hydrualic motor vs generic hydrualic cylinders. (motor valves more likely have bigger internal passage ways. to reduce pressure of hyd oil going through the valve)
normally when you start adding rear remotes, you start looking at "stack valves" due to not a whole lot of room to place but valves and the levers, and then for some folks, they need to run some short hoses from the valve stack to another location on rear of tractor for the QD (quick disconnects).
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with your questions of front and rear.... going to push ya towards looking at a TNT (top and tilt) for 3pt hitch, basicly a hyd cylinder replaces top link and 1 of the side links of the 3 pt hitch. so you can adjust 3pt hitch from seat of tractor. vs trying to mess with turn buckles.
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Jrus
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Yeah I'm looking to get a kit or valve to do the FEL I'm no stranger to hydraulics but never messed much with tractor hydraulics. A rear remote kit from the dealer was 2500. And all they had was an aftermarket kit for the FEL that was like 1200 but after looking at the kit for the FEL I figured I could find a valve or cylonoid type valve to do what I want for the FEL but I really want be rear ports. Just don't want to spend that much on them.
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some folks have just ran long hoses from rear remotes, all the way up to the FEL, to obtain a 3rd function hydraulics.
Surplus Center over last couple years i been here on TBN. always seemed cheaper or right at fair price compared to other websites / companies out there. and they seemed to offer the larger selection of hydraulic stuff online vs other places. i never order anything from them yet. but *shrugs*
the machines to put the end fittings on (pipe / hoses) can be rather expensive, so you most likely will be going to a local tractor repair place and ordering up pipe and hoses with ends. you might be able to do it over internet for hoses, and maybe short pipes with specific bends but do not know. i tend to see more DIY'ers here on TBN just running hoses vs trying to put in metal pipe. or less it is some factory setup and only real easy long term solution is for a metal pipe in hooking things up.
hyd hoses do expand and contract some. so make sure you don't not crank them down tight, but leave a little slack between areas you were you fasten the hoses down.
you should be able to find some sort of "min bend radius" for hyd hoses. other words if you try to bend them past a certain point they will begin to pinch vs bend.
Surplus Center over last couple years i been here on TBN. always seemed cheaper or right at fair price compared to other websites / companies out there. and they seemed to offer the larger selection of hydraulic stuff online vs other places. i never order anything from them yet. but *shrugs*
the machines to put the end fittings on (pipe / hoses) can be rather expensive, so you most likely will be going to a local tractor repair place and ordering up pipe and hoses with ends. you might be able to do it over internet for hoses, and maybe short pipes with specific bends but do not know. i tend to see more DIY'ers here on TBN just running hoses vs trying to put in metal pipe. or less it is some factory setup and only real easy long term solution is for a metal pipe in hooking things up.
hyd hoses do expand and contract some. so make sure you don't not crank them down tight, but leave a little slack between areas you were you fasten the hoses down.
you should be able to find some sort of "min bend radius" for hyd hoses. other words if you try to bend them past a certain point they will begin to pinch vs bend.
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I purchased one for $800, it's a lot of money but that warranty can go a long way. Check out Everything Attachments. They can help get the correct hydraulic flow for your tractor. Mine was built for my tractor and only about 1hr to bolt and hook everything up. It's been great!!!
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Just for comparison the way I did mine was $250. Bought a valve, some fittings, and some hoses. Here is a plumbing diagram if anyone is interested.
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If the tractor has a "power beyond" plug or kit, one can use that, (one of John Deere's) better keep secrets, it will give one a place to directly couple in the hydraulics and a return location, and then one can use the correct set of valves (open or closed depending on the hydraulics) and if one wanted to one could had a dozen valves,
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see how they suggest to set up a back hoe with the remote valves, most likely using a power beyond block or it is built in to the tractor,
the tractor does not know what type of valve is hooked up, to it back hoe or a grapple or a loader,
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see how they suggest to set up a back hoe with the remote valves, most likely using a power beyond block or it is built in to the tractor,
the tractor does not know what type of valve is hooked up, to it back hoe or a grapple or a loader,
BigTruckMan
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If you go to WWW.Surpuscenter.com you can find hundreds of valves for like $150 - $250 or so ,including 3 spool loader valves , or hyd. rear remotes and you can use a power beyond plug to run oil to a extra valve for you grapple.:cool2: