Anyone Seen These?

   / Anyone Seen These? #2  
Only from the roadside...

I have seen a similar Antonio Carrero up close. They're both designed to work primarily vineyards in the Mediterranean. The ones with a 3-PT front and rear would be quite useful on steep slopes, in comparison to a traditional CUT/SCUT. I've never seen one with an FEL. With the engine way out front, I'd imagine an FEL wouldn't be practical. You might be able to put one on the rear of the reversible machines...

Having owned a Fiat at one time, I'd be concerned about both durability and parts availability. I'm not impressed with Italian engineering or manufacturing, in comparison to German or Swiss, for example... IMO, it's on a level with Spanish or French, and way behind either German, Swiss, Swedish, etc. I mention the Swiss because they make some really neat stuff for use on their mountainsides. None are imported to the US, as far as I know.
 
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There is/was a three wheeled articulated tractor available a few years ago. It may still be sold here. I forget its name, but I am pretty sure it was Swiss.

I have had three Alfa Romeos. They were very well engineered. Fiat, on the other hand..... :rolleyes:

I should also mention I once had an Audi 100 LS. It was probably the least reliable vehicle I have ever owned.

It's like the French. They build some of the best tanks in the world. They also build the Renault. :p

Hmmm. Aren't both Renault and Fiat controlled by their respective governments?
 
   / Anyone Seen These? #4  
SnowRidge said:

You bet. If it wasn't for the Model 76 I got a fleeting glimpse of at my local IH dealer (he didn't sell them but was delivering it to a local orchardist) back in the 70's I probably never would have discovered the PT. That thing made a lasting impression and when I started looking for a replacement for my then current (and frustrating) IH a few years ago I did a Google search on "articulated tractor" and came up with the PT on the "other brands" forum here at TBN.

And here I am :)
Sedgewood
 
   / Anyone Seen These? #5  
They, and the Ferraris, are reasonably popular out California in the vineyards. We tried to buy a property and the seller absolutely refused to sell us his Ferrari (tractor). He said that it was no problem to get parts and he wanted to keep it. It was 25+ years old.

The downside is no FEL, and while lower to the ground, they aren't as low as PTs. Most vineyards have a small buldozer/loader for those applications. Prior to buying the PT, I was strongly encouraged by friends who know about such things to buy a tracked crawler. In the end, I couldn't get comfortable with the slope performance, and I am glad that I didn't get one.

The upside is that these can all plow well, especially with the engine way out in front, and some are double enders.

The Swiss version is the Aebi terratrac. Similar concept, very different execution. Looking over the designs has certainly given me ideas.
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SnowRidge said:
 
   / Anyone Seen These? #6  
Someone on TBN opened his wallet for the Antonio... There is a dealer 100 miles away from me who seldom has them in cause they immediately sell. It is a major orchard area. Those tractors are amazing but 45 to 60K to get into new and you won't often find them used. Implements are steep as well but they really work

Carl
 
   / Anyone Seen These? #7  
I wouldn't want a three wheeled tractor especially on hilly land because of the inherent instability problems.

Also, the biggest hp engine is not automatically the best. At one time I was comparing the B&S and Kohler engines in the appropriate size ranges and in some cases it appears that due to differences in the performance curves a slightly less than max hp version would give the best performance. One doesn't necessarily want an engine that produces the most output only at peak levels but instead one that produces more at the more economical rpm's.
 

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