Apprehension buying new models

   / Apprehension buying new models #1  

TigerfaninAR

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So JD is coming out with their new subcuts and have heard some say they would rather not buy a new model, let someone else find all the bugs. I can understand that but has any of the big tractor companies ever had a new model that had significant problems that caused others to stay away?

Would you stay away from a new model from JD, Kubota, Massey, NH?

I guess the abrupt stop of the Kubota 50 series is all I can come up with.
 
   / Apprehension buying new models #2  
Buy it and enjoy it.
You will have a warranty.
 
   / Apprehension buying new models #3  
I don't know about tractors, but I canceled an order for a 2007 Tundra and bought a slightly used 06 and sure am glad I did. My son in law has had two of the new ones and has a 2010 now which he loves, but the first year was sure grim.

I seriously doubt there will be problems with the new JD, but I will let someone find out.
 
   / Apprehension buying new models #4  
Well, perhaps one might put the 50 series BX in that category of recent new models that just didn't hit on all cylinders, and Kubota moved quite quickly to scrap it (revise it) and built the 60 series to replace it. Very successfully, I might add.

Not that everyone hated the 50, but way too many got "the word" and sales were at stake. Between the plastic issues and quick jerk trans, its great new ideas just weren't.

That's an example that came to my mind as well.
 
   / Apprehension buying new models #5  
Biggest concern would be the EPA Tier 4 engines and this would be for all brands.

Roy
 
   / Apprehension buying new models #6  
There is a lot of misinformation regarding the durability of first year products (tractors and automobiles). Engineers are human and make mistakes, but the level of testing that a new vehicle goes through before making it to production is extremely extensive. No manufacturer is looking to rush a product to market so that the customer can de-bug issues and force a recal. I would not shy away from any new launch.
 
   / Apprehension buying new models #7  
Getting into JD's ag market initial recalls, 4000,30series,7000series 8000 series to get started with 50 hour dismantles as well as a couple of more smaller ones.

Kubota-0
 
   / Apprehension buying new models #8  
I would want to try to learn more about the new line up. Who is going to be the actual producer's of the new line up. Is JD going to be the actual producers, or did they replace Yanmar as a producer?

You can check on the web site TractorData.com - information on all makes and models of tractors and learn more about some tractor models and see how long the tractor model stayed on the market. Some brands change model line up because of the production price of a model has them at higher costs.

Models that do well with the brand name stay on the market longer.
 
   / Apprehension buying new models #9  
Nothing beats testing environments like real life. Regular users just do things that nobody in the manufacturing industry would ever consider.
 
   / Apprehension buying new models #10  
No manufacturer is looking to rush a product to market so that the customer can de-bug issues and force a recal. I would not shy away from any new launch.

One exception that SPRINGS to mind is Microsoft!
 
   / Apprehension buying new models #11  
So JD is coming out with their new subcuts and have heard some say they would rather not buy a new model, let someone else find all the bugs. I can understand that but has any of the big tractor companies ever had a new model that had significant problems that caused others to stay away?

Would you stay away from a new model from JD, Kubota, Massey, NH?

I guess the abrupt stop of the Kubota 50 series is all I can come up with.

Yes, No, Yes and Yes.

(staying away from 1st year and probably 2nd also)

I recall when the JD 4300 and it's brethren came out. Lots of issues with the front end of the 4wd machines. Many other piddling issues. Today, not only don't you know what electronics and emissions control bogies are waiting for you -- there is the added confusion on who is actually making the machines. Only Kubota makes all of the tractors they sell.
 
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I would think that where the new model is made and corporate relationship is THE consideration - i.e. control QA/QC over the final product rests with the vendor.

i.e. some vendors are searching for ever-lower manufacturing costs from 2nd and third tier suppliers whereas others insist on maintaining QC in tight times - my 2c
 
   / Apprehension buying new models #13  
Did a google search and it looks like there are some JD's made in China, India and other places. Hard to handle quality across oceans, cultures, languages, etc. Yeah, it's a global marketplace, sure.

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