Are there tax advantages towards buying a CUT?

   / Are there tax advantages towards buying a CUT? #1  

Theowegian

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Ive heard that there is a one time deduction of 100% for major purchases in year 2004. Can someone explain this to me or help me strategize how a compact tractor could be purchased using the current tax laws to their advantage? Or maybe a website that might be helpful?

thanks.
dwight
 
   / Are there tax advantages towards buying a CUT? #2  
I'm looking to buy a compact tractor too, I will be curious to see if this law is true and what the regulations are. I'm not a farmer, and this would be used for home work.
 
   / Are there tax advantages towards buying a CUT? #3  
I don't know about that, however, I write off my tractor(s) due to the fact that I am a part time farmer and the majority of tractor use is farm related.

I don't think you could pull off a little tractor with the IRS. You need to talk to an accountant about it.
 
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you really need to talk to a tax specialest,and what actually is considered a majior purchase? means different things to different folks. but pleas let us know what u find out.
 
   / Are there tax advantages towards buying a CUT? #5  
For a homeowner I am not aware of any tax advantage available for buying any type of lawn or property maintainence equipment, including a tractor.

If you use the tractor for some business purpose (commercial landscape, farming, etc) then you have a legitmate business expense. It probably must be depreciated like other major equipment, but I've never looking into a schedule for a tractor.
 
   / Are there tax advantages towards buying a CUT? #6  
In a former life I evaluated Cost Proposals (time and materials bids) for compliance with the CFR's (Code of Federal Regulations). Determining allowable tax deductions by reading IRS regulations is approximately the same thing - you read the primary regulation then research how courts have interpreted the parts that are deliberately vague.

In this case, Google on
"Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003"
to see IRS's publications, and also many interpretations by others. Here's one discussion that's relatively understandable:
http://www.hpj.com/archives/2003/dec03/Taxcutbilloffersnewwaystosa.CFM

Here's my excerpt from that article:

"The most widely advertised reduction, Barrett says, has been the increase in the limit for the Section 179 Expense Election, which allows businesses to expense up to $15,000 of current year capital purchases as long as their total capital purchases do not exceed $200,000.

While non-producers are most notably using this reduction to buy large sport utility vehicles (the unit has to weigh over 6,000 pounds to qualify), there's plenty of other reasons producers can use the cut.

The new law raised the expense limit to $100,000 and the total purchases limit to $400,000. This allows a large amount of variance in scenarios for tax planning this fall. [2003]

"For example, if you purchase a $125,000 tractor, you could elect to expense $100,000 and the remaining $25,000 would be subject to normal depreciation, so the total expense in the year of purchase would be $102,688 versus the $35,750 of normal depreciation that would have applied..."

"Unfortunately, many people still didn't see the income levels this year to make purchases big enough to take full advantage of the election...."
***end quote***

In summary if you have small-business farm income you can expense the entire depreciation of a new asset in the year of purchase subject to some limits. I think in this instance you must be the first user of a brand-new asset.

Now where things get interesting is when this rule is used to buy a large asset and allocate shares to unrelated purchasers of a proportional share of the asset. I think that is the structure underlying a classified ad in Ag Alert (California Farm Bureau) claiming you could attain free ownership of a share in a new airplane, using this or a prior IRS regulation. I think they wanted to sell shares in aircraft to qualifying small-business farmers who otherwise had no large expense to write off. Hence 'free' ownership of your aircraft share, after taxes.

Glad I'm retired and now only have to research this kind of stuff once a year at tax season, rather than daily!
 
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Here's an excellent discussion of the Section 179 Deduction. section 179 deduction. Basically, if you are a sole proprietor or corporation, you can deduct the cost of eligible equipment up to $100,000 or the total taxable income for your business, whichever is less. If you don't have a business income, your deduction is the same as your income - zero. The purchase should probably also have something to do with your business -- a farmer or a landscaper could deduct a CUT; it might be hard for a dentist to justify it. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
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My 52 acres of mostly woods is carried on the local tax books as a forestry business. I had a "Forestry plan" created by an expert and in accordance with the plan, I had 4000 southern pine trees planted. I sold about 10 acres of trees several years back in what was to become a lake. I have 14 acres in new growth (planted) another 8 or so in natural reforestation and about 20 acres in older growth. When I purchased my CUT 4 years ago I deducted (expensed) the entire amount. If your plot of land is big enough (in Texas it must be over 30 acres as I recall) and it is designated aggriculteral, then a tractor and the attachments are considered neccessary to the ag business and may be expense.
 
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Well..

My wife is a photographer..

OK>> after you are done laughing.

We take about a 35 percent deduction of home expenses for the percentage of our home that the business takes up. (I lost our garage to her backgrounds and lights, moved my workshop to the basement to make her an office... etc.)

I sent in the info on the new 20HP lawn and garden tractor to the accountant. We'll see what he says. I used to deduct a percentage of my snowplowing I paid out to a guy with a truck. Now I do it myself. I also routinely pay out for landscaping plants and such to make spots on our property for pictures.

I'll let you know what he says.

JP
 

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