Argo tracked vehicles, anyone groom snow trails with these?)

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ttowne66

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Hey Guys

I have lost all confidence in the RTV1100 to perform the trail grooming task we are looking for. Has anyone out there used the Argo vehicles for this purpose?
Thanks.
 
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I doubt that you would be pleased with the Argo. You have had more than your share of problems with the RTV but I think the Argo would be just another headache. You could probably buy a good use Bombi for about half what you paid for the RTV. I seen a used Bombi that was in NH just a few ago. Don't ask me where because I was just surfing. There is a lot of good used stuff out there just start looking and asking ?'s. In the mean time if I happen to surf across any I will send you the link.
 
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I'm just making an uneducated guess, but I suspect that the Argo would be 1. - too lightweight to pull a drag
2. - too low on horsepower
3. - lack adequate frame structure to attach hitch for pulling heavy drag - it's basically a motorized plastic hottub.
4. - chain driven drivetrain probably not robust enough to pull heavy loads
But it'll float if it breaks through the ice:D
p.s. I've always wanted one though
 
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Hey Guys

I have lost all confidence in the RTV1100 to perform the trail grooming task we are looking for. Has anyone out there used the Argo vehicles for this purpose?
Thanks.

Just wondering what you choose if any thing? I'm looking for a snow groomer for our cross country ski trails. Buying a snowcat would be ideal but a little too much money for us. However if every thing else including RTV's is a waste of time then we would consider the investment. How ever i have heard that snow cats need a deep base to operate well. That is why a RTV with MATTRACKS may make some sense. The MATTRACKS go for $7 K and a RTV could add up quick.
Justin
 
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I groom with a CanAm ATV on tracks. Its an 800 Outlander, but I am sure that even a 500 cc machine would do fine. The tracks are CanAm brand Apache tracks, and like all tracks they gear the machine down about 30%, so it gains power. And there is always low range, although I never use it. My grooming goal is to establish a base in the trail so it can be used for hiking and 2-wheel drive ATV riding. So the goal is to knock the air out of the snow, packing it, smoothing, and leveling it. These trails would be real nice for CC skiiing also, I assume.
Procedure: First few snows I simply drag a chunk of floormat behind the tracked ATV, connected to the hitch by a 1/4" cable laced thru the mat diagonnally. This is the usual shop floor comfort mat, thick rubber, full of 1 inch holes. The tracks themselves, with the weight of the ATV on them, do most of the work at first, and the mat tends to level the surface a bit better. The deeper the snow, the more important that first step is.
The next step is a roller packer groomer that I invented. If you try to pull the roller groomer too soon, in too deep of snow, before going thru at least a couple times with the flormat method, it will simply plow along, not rolling, and that is not what you want. So after a couple drag mat passes and at least a couple days for it to set up the initial foot of snow, I break out the roller groomer. Then I use the roller groomer every weekend for the rest of the winter. The roller groomer is based on special "rims" wrapped with snowmobile track which has been modified to produce a specific action in the snow. The roller groomer weighs a couple hundred pounds, and can get twice that heavy if loaded with heavy snow inside due to conditions and travel speed, etc. The surface of the trail is left intentionally textured so it freezes deeper and therefore sets up stronger for a longer lasting surface. I have put these pics in other threads, but here are a couple again:
 

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Sweet ride Jim. :thumbsup:

The cover on the roller looks specially made, why a cover at all ?
 
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The cover? I call it a "fender". It is Stainless steel, with multiple bends to produce the large radius form. Originally it was designed to be able to hinge up and back and downward, to smooth the trail to a glassy-smooth surface. Operation with the smoother/fender hinged down showed the snow really flew around from the uncovered roller, and accumulated on the ATV backend over time. And experimentation showed that the whole glass-smooth idea was less effective at producing the best trail. I found that the trail froze more solid if left somewhat textured. Also, the texture, even though it is fragile, gives a bit of surface traction before it breaks off. So the folding smoothing fender simply became a fender, bolted in place. The hinge is still there and could be used if it became desireable to make a really smooth surface again.
 

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