Artix snow blower

   / Artix snow blower #11  
Hello genze,


AS I am coming back to this at 4AM I wanted to add this.


The single stage snow thrower is an outgrowth of the grain auger and the grain augers have been around for a very long time with the simple design being a screw or a helix surrounding a solid shaft. The same can be said for water lifting screws that were used to lift high volumes of river water at steep angles to a water treatment plant to make clean drinking water.

Archimedes had the right idea for something that is used to do many jobs in many places.

Collectively single stage directional grain augers operate for hundreds of thousand of hours annually moving grain from combines to grain buggies with off loading augers or into trucks that off load the grain taken from the field into grain pits equipped with grain augers in the bottom of the pit to move and lift the grain into a grain dryer. That grain dryer has an auger to move the dried grain into a waiting truck or to an elevator that lifts the grain to a gravity delivery tube then into a grain bin. The grain may be stirred by a battery of gear driven augers attached to a rotating arm connected to a center post in the grain bin using an electric motor powering a gear that rotates the arm with the grain mixing augers that uses a rack drive gear in the top of the grain bin as it travels in circles mixing the hot grain with cooler grain to bring its temperature down so it can be stored in another grain bin safely for long periods. Later the same grain is removed with an auger out of the grain bin into a waiting truck and sent to market or a grainery where it is stored to later be shipped by rail to an end user where the grain is again moved with an elevator and augers to storage in a concrete grain silo to be processed later animal or human consumption.

Commercial quality is no different than industrial quality in the scheme of things, its all related to how much you want to spend and if it breaks it still has to be fixed and I have dealt with my share of junk.

The single stage units are plain and simple and easy to maintain with fewer moving parts just like grain augers.
I am familiar with almost every brand of snow removal machinery made in all sizes. I have been involved as an end user of snow removal machinery of various types since I was 13 years old and I am also very familiar with push type of rotary snow plows used on American railways and the self propelled German AEB Beilhack snow clearers, two of which were bought by CONRAIL in 1975 and are still used here by the CSX railway company.

The Artix is really no different than the Pronovost PXPL models in operation as they both can drag the snow away from as garage door or driveway and clear it at the same time.
The Pronovost PXPL86 is the smallest unit they have that will clear in the bidirectional operation as well.


All I can say is you should watch a lot of single stage snow blower videos of the machines that are made in Europe showing off the various manufacturers machines on youtube. They don't use Fluid Film or WD-40 or cooking spray either and they throw it quite a ways away when they are moving snow.

Snow removal requires massive amounts of torque and adhesion to clear deep snows.
Send the Artix people a formal letter requesting the number of machines they have sold of this type and the dealers that sell them so you can make a rational decision as the minute the money leaves your hands its gone.

Look at the PXPL units and call the Pronovost people in Quebec before you go any further with this., send them the same letter and ask for the same information.
When you make things simple its easier to work with and you have fewer problems with any implement. When its all said and done you could use a wider series 2000 model and they could build one for you as they make units in wider dimensions as well so.......

I just don't want to see you get burned. The single stage units made for garden tractors were made heavier to make them simpler to own and operate. They lost favor in the market place because they were heavier, stronger and cost more to build but the end user had an attachment that did not break down. I have had to change the drive belts in my junk JD snow blower more than once a year on average so.........
 
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   / Artix snow blower
  • Thread Starter
#12  
Hello genze,


AS I am coming back to this at 4AM I wanted to add this.


The single stage snow thrower is an outgrowth of the grain auger and the grain augers have been around for a very long time with the simple design being a screw or a helix surrounding a solid shaft. The same can be said for water lifting screws that were used to lift high volumes of river water at steep angles to a water treatment plant to make clean drinking water.

Archimedes had the right idea for something that is used to do many jobs in many places.

Collectively single stage directional grain augers operate for hundreds of thousand of hours annually moving grain from combines to grain buggies with off loading augers or into trucks that off load the grain taken from the field into grain pits equipped with grain augers in the bottom of the pit to move and lift the grain into a grain dryer. That grain dryer has an auger to move the dried grain into a waiting truck or to an elevator that lifts the grain to a gravity delivery tube then into a grain bin. The grain may be stirred by a battery of gear driven augers attached to a rotating arm connected to a center post in the grain bin using an electric motor powering a gear that rotates the arm with the grain mixing augers that uses a rack drive gear in the top of the grain bin as it travels in circles mixing the hot grain with cooler grain to bring its temperature down so it can be stored in another grain bin safely for long periods. Later the same grain is removed with an auger out of the grain bin into a waiting truck and sent to market or a grainery where it is stored to later be shipped by rail to an end user where the grain is again moved with an elevator and augers to storage in a concrete grain silo to be processed later animal or human consumption.

Commercial quality is no different than industrial quality in the scheme of things, its all related to how much you want to spend and if it breaks it still has to be fixed and I have dealt with my share of junk.

The single stage units are plain and simple and easy to maintain with fewer moving parts just like grain augers.
I am familiar with almost every brand of snow removal machinery made in all sizes. I have been involved as an end user of snow removal machinery of various types since I was 13 years old and I am also very familiar with push type of rotary snow plows used on American railways and the self propelled German AEB Beilhack snow clearers, two of which were bought by CONRAIL in 1975 and are still used here by the CSX railway company.

The Artix is really no different than the Pronovost PXPL models in operation as they both can drag the snow away from as garage door or driveway and clear it at the same time.
The Pronovost PXPL86 is the smallest unit they have that will clear in the bidirectional operation as well.


All I can say is you should watch a lot of single stage snow blower videos of the machines that are made in Europe showing off the various manufacturers machines on youtube. They don't use Fluid Film or WD-40 or cooking spray either and they throw it quite a ways away when they are moving snow.

Snow removal requires massive amounts of torque and adhesion to clear deep snows.
Send the Artix people a formal letter requesting the number of machines they have sold of this type and the dealers that sell them so you can make a rational decision as the minute the money leaves your hands its gone.

Look at the PXPL units and call the Pronovost people in Quebec before you go any further with this., send them the same letter and ask for the same information.
When you make things simple its easier to work with and you have fewer problems with any implement. When its all said and done you could use a wider series 2000 model and they could build one for you as they make units in wider dimensions as well so.......

I just don't want to see you get burned. The single stage units made for garden tractors were made heavier to make them simpler to own and operate. They lost favor in the market place because they were heavier, stronger and cost more to build but the end user had an attachment that did not break down. I have had to change the drive belts in my junk JD snow blower more than once a year on average so.........

Leonz,

Thank You for sharing all of your Knowledge with me.

I Have a few concerns please watch this video. Reist 3000 Series Snow Blower / Thrower - Single Stage - YouTube

It shows 3000 in action. there is not much spill over, but the drum throws as much behind the tractor as it does up the shoot.

The paddles throw 1/2 the snow 10 behind the tractor and the other 1/2 out the shoot.

Believe me I am trying to see your point, and would be happy to purchase one but like you said your self, do not make a mistake.

Also on my property I need to plow a road 20' wide and 1/4 mile long not to mention a parking area of 50'x150' and about 20' wide
around several buildings. So its important to have something i can pull behind so I'm not looking backwards for 90% of the work I do.

Reist wants $10,250.00 for their pull behind #3000 snow thrower and thats stock with no options. I can't find one video of their pull behind in action, so seems a little risky, like you said, once the $10,250 is gone its over. Its not like I"m going to drive it from Idaho to Canada to return it.

I dont mind spending the money, I just only want to do it once and have it work perfect with my Kubota L6060.

Also the Rep. for Reist said that the Hydraulic really isn't totally perfected yet and it really needs super high flow and
if i'm woried about throw distance he certinatly wouldn't suggest hydraulic. He said they mainly use the hydraulic on high flow
skidsteers.

I'm with you, I want something built to the highest standards with as little maintenance as possible and i don't mind paying for it.
I just want to do it once. I want it to last 20 plus years if well maintained. It will be perfectly maintained and operated by yours truly,
so i don't have to worry about it being miss used. Also it will always be stored with the tractor in a heated building.

I'm not trying to argue with you, i'm just trying to show you in words what my conditions are here i Idaho and what daily uses will be.

Now that you know a little more about how I will be using the machine on our property do you have any suggestions of the proper
machine for my particular property and situation.

I can't seem to find anything on the #3000 Reist pull behind.

What would you do if you were in my shoes now that you have a little more info on our needs.

Not trying to bargain shop or save money, just want the very best machine possible for our conditions and property here.

Do our home work once try to buy the best and never be sorry.

This site is great, I have learned so much here. this is the first place I go when i want to learn something about our tractor or attachments.

Thank You for all your help.....
 
   / Artix snow blower #13  
Hello genze

I just found your posting, I will go into this in greater detail for you.

The reason you see the forward scatter of the snow as the mule advances into the snowpack is due to the Series1000, 2000 and 3000 not having a scatter stop shield in the upper center portion of the rotor housing that's all. Installing a scatter stop shield plate would keep the snow from being thrown forward which is something you do not want with a parking lot with cars in it of course.
In saying that a scatter shield that would be long enough to meet the height of the rotor paddles could be installed by Riest with ease with a bit of welding. All that it would require is more steel welded to the rotor housing and then bolting the scatter shield to the roor housing and weldment in the event of a rotor bearing or bearings requiring replacement some time in the future you always want to replace both bearing in any case of a bearing failure as neither bearing floats.

After this is done any forward scatter would be eliminatedor reduced to a bare minimum as the paddles would continue to lift the snow up through the chute and spout..
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I am going to ask/suggest that you contact Paul Vanderzon; Deneigement Vanderzon | Deneigement Saint-Bruno

The reason I want you to talk to him directly is six fold:

1. he sell Pronovost snow casters

2. he uses Kubota Equipment

3. he uses Pronovost inverted snow casters in contracted snow removal in his business

4. he is a member of the SIMA organization which is all things snow in the United States and Canada

5. The Pronovost inverted and PXPL units have scraper blades to used to pull snow and scrape pavement if desired


Paul is a great guy and he has sold and used Pronovost snow casters for a long time. His phone number is 1-450-653-4675 all times eastern.


Sending you a PM.
 
   / Artix snow blower #14  
Hi Genze,

i just saw this thread, hopefully you took Leon's advice and gave Paul a shout.
He may know more about pull behinds than about anyone. Too, i believe that he had tried the Artix unit and had some kind of issues with it

You may want to chat out a thread on plowsite called switching to a blowing service- it is quite long but has a bunch of good info.

as far as the bidirectional need , you may not really need the push capability as often you can just back into deep snow and then drive forward, not quite as fast as a push but leaves you with a simpler pull blower. I have been using a pull blower on 1/2 mile of road plus multiple drives for 3 years in NW montana and think that it is totally the best way to go.

As i am close to BC i imported it myself (no taxes or duties because of Nafta)

best of luck


Hello genze

I just found your posting, I will go into this in greater detail for you.

The reason you see the forward scatter of the snow as the mule advances into the snowpack is due to the Series1000, 2000 and 3000 not having a scatter stop shield in the upper center portion of the rotor housing that's all. Installing a scatter stop shield plate would keep the snow from being thrown forward which is something you do not want with a parking lot with cars in it of course.
In saying that a scatter shield that would be long enough to meet the height of the rotor paddles could be installed by Riest with ease with a bit of welding. All that it would require is more steel welded to the rotor housing and then bolting the scatter shield to the roor housing and weldment in the event of a rotor bearing or bearings requiring replacement some time in the future you always want to replace both bearing in any case of a bearing failure as neither bearing floats.

After this is done any forward scatter would be eliminatedor reduced to a bare minimum as the paddles would continue to lift the snow up through the chute and spout..
1
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I am going to ask/suggest that you contact Paul Vanderzon; Deneigement Vanderzon | Deneigement Saint-Bruno

The reason I want you to talk to him directly is six fold:

1. he sell Pronovost snow casters

2. he uses Kubota Equipment

3. he uses Pronovost inverted snow casters in contracted snow removal in his business

4. he is a member of the SIMA organization which is all things snow in the United States and Canada

5. The Pronovost inverted and PXPL units have scraper blades to used to pull snow and scrape pavement if desired


Paul is a great guy and he has sold and used Pronovost snow casters for a long time. His phone number is 1-450-653-4675 all times eastern.


Sending you a PM.
 
   / Artix snow blower
  • Thread Starter
#15  
Thanks for the reply.
I ended up ordering a Normand 82 inch inverted pole behind snowblower.

It was just delivered last week to my home in Idaho and I'm very impressed with the build quality and how substantial it is
 
   / Artix snow blower #16  
.... and you forgot the pics?:D
I know one guy in Idaho that's thinking & wishing for snow!:laughing:
 
   / Artix snow blower #17  
Did you mean this picture? Bernina MGB_Rotary_02.jpg
 

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