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Fisherman305

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I am the owner of a b7800 4wd,hyd,30hp kubota and I exploring the idea of cutting my hay field and bailing it. Can i use a sickle bar cutter?,combine,?square bailer. rake,? with this tractor? Any comments appreciated. I will do the above or brush hog it and leave it lay which i do not want to do.
I do not own any equip so if it is possible what size equipment do i need. will cut aprox 40 acres of level land.
 
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You can use a sicklebar mower or a drum mower.
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I believe you be better off just mowing and raking and not baling you just don't have enough tractor mass to safely bale hay with most square balers. There are some compact balers out there but new they are almost $10,000 and that's expensive for what you get. Hire it custom baled.
 
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A combine is for harvesting grain, you don't need one.

You can run a sickle mower. You could run the pictured drum mower. You can't run a haybine, which combines a sickle bar & a crimper to dry the hay quicker. You could use a stand-alone conditioner if that is needed, or a tedder to help dry the hay down.

You can rake hay with your tractor.

You can't run a baler. Those can possibly run on your hp, but would like a bit more. More importantly, a baler is a big heavy critter that can really push a tractor around - and your tractor is too small to handle it. Just not going to work out. Also have heard of the pto on CUT's not holding up to the abuse a balers gives, even if it can spin it....

It is a common starting point to sell standing hay on shares - the other guy makes it, & you get 1/2, he gets half. If you would like to mow & rake the hay, that % can be adjusted.....

--->Paul
 
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<font color="blue">It is a common starting point to sell standing hay on shares - the other guy makes it, & you get 1/2, he gets half. If you would like to mow & rake the hay, that % can be adjusted.....
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I live in Massachusetts and my hayfield combined with my neighbors abutting hayfield (probably about 6 acres total) has been cut, raked, and bailed by a nearby farmer. We get nothing except it's cut twice a year for free. It's been an arrangement from the previous owner and just continued on when I bought the property. My neighbor claims he was told the farmer could not afford the upkeep(fertilizer, seed, labor, tractor maintenance?) and pay us anything for the hay. Are we getting taken to the cleaners? Should we be getting a percentage?
 
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If I had animals to eat the hay I would like a little something in return. Maybe not 1/2 because a six acre field might not be worth the farmers time if he has to give away half, but at least something.

If I didn't feed hay I'd be happy that my 6 acres was being tended for free and leave well enough alone.
 
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I believe my neighbor has to pay some to get this done in Southern NH. Though there really isn't a farmer really close. I talked to my cousin about it who has a farm and it said it was about right.

I believe hay bales are about $2 a piece around here.
 
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well ya ask if you are getting taken, well its hard to say, if ya dont have anything to feed then i suppose ya can look at it as you are getting your field mowed for free, but if ya have something to feed then i would think you could work out some sorta shares, but like others have said 6 acres may not be worth the time if he has to give away half. around here in connecticut there are pretty much no one that pays to use the hayfields, the people are just glad to get the field mowed, there arnt enough farmers around to make any competition realy, there is only like 3 or 4 farmers around here and none are fulltime farmers they are just part time haymakers like myself. some people that do have fields and animals to feed will pay people close to the market price per bale of hay, usualy around 2 or 3 bucks, just to have the someone come and bale up there field. its all cause there isnt any competition realy. so if you tell the farmer haying your field that you want half the money from the hay say, he may say ok well see ya, you can mow the field yourself from now on. haying isnt as profitable as people think it is, i mean people see that you are getting like 3 bucks for a cube of hay and all you have to do is cut it and drive the baler over it. well they forget about the time to rake,ted,handle all the bales, maintain equipment, fuel costs,parts cost when something breaks,time to tow/drive your equipment to the field etc. its not easy money like it appears to the some people.
 
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Getting taken is all a matter of perspective and location!

In this part of the world, the going rates for land leasing vary from $80 - $120 per acre. Established hayfields and larger tracts (over 20 acres) tend to go on the higher side. Heck, the government pays me $90 not to farm ours!

Perhaps your neighbor is just a bit gulible?
 
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Getting taken was probably not the best choice of words. I just wanted to see if I was the only one giving away the use of my land for free. I am very happy to have it cut for free, but wanted to make sure I was not leaving money on the table. I just wish it was when I wanted it cut /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

As I take back more and more for my garden/crop I fear at some point it will not be worth his while to cut/bale it. But hey now I could cut it myself if I had to....
 
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If you were bearing the cost of the fertilizer you'd need some money, but since he's paying for it, he probably can't afford to pay you for the grass. It is probably the fact that you and your neighbor's fields are contiguous that allows him to do it in the first place.
 
 

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