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I think that you did the right thing. In a true in flight engine emergency, the radio is certainly not at the very top of your priority list. Now I realize that you were in a training environment, but if the real thing happens, if all of your training involved grabbing the microphone to let center know instead of the other items that need to be accomplished you might actually do it in that order (i.e., like you your trained). Sure, the need to contact someone is in the checklist, but certainly not at the top and certainly not at the expense of flying the aircraft and other high priority items.

Good job.

By the way, could you tell me what the abreviations mean that you were referencing. I am sure that there is an equivalent airspace over here, I am just interested in how they are named over there.
 
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#42  
Given some of the other posts here, I assumed you guys had different terms to us, but I thought I'd throw them in to see !!! So even aviation can't standardise terminology hey ???

yeah he pulled the power on me at 2500 which doesn't give you much time.

By the time we heard the commotion we tried to broadcast but were too low.

RPT - Regular Passener Transport

MBZ - Mandatory Broadcast Zone - An airfield without a tower but with mutual seperation between aircraft required. No regular jet traffic. 15nm radius and 5000 ft height around the field.

(A CTAF - Common Traffic Advisory Frequency is an even less used airfield and you don't need a radio to enter one) 5nm radius and 3000 feet vertical.

Cheers
 
   / Aviation GPS Units #43  
Neil, if you really want to have some fun, wait until you get to fly a good C-STOL airplane. We experimented with a Heliocourier in '74 and kept the local FAA office busy answering phone calls about some nut doing things with an airplane that can't be done. Flying backwards was across the airport was one the least nutty looking stunts./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
 
   / Aviation GPS Units #44  
<font color=blue>Passed my licence test today.</font color=blue>

Congratulations, Neil.../w3tcompact/icons/king.gif

Is it expensive to fly in Oz?

P.S. I dragged out getting my private certificate over several years as well...
Here's the route I took:

Fly...run out of money...fly...run out of money...(hey, is there a pattern going on here?) /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
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#45  
Hey Dean

Would the CRJ stand for Canadair Regional Jet by any chance??

They flew them into our town for maybe a year until that airline went broke. Nice plane. I have a cool pic of one in our livery if you are interested.

My logbook reads fly.....blow up engine in truck = no money ............have first child.........fly.......have second child........fly.........fly........get licence.

Sort of like yours.

Flying a 172 here privately including fuel is approx $153 per hour. I think that would be about $80/hr US.

How does that sound??
 
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#46  
Wot is that bird???

Is that one of those things where the wings (or engines) rotate from horizontal to vertical??

I have seen pics.

Very strange indeed.

Were you a flyboy in (I hate to say it) your younger days??

Cheers
 
   / Aviation GPS Units #47  
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Would the CRJ stand for Canadair Regional Jet by any chance??

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Yes, indeed. (See attached photo)

Bombardier manufactures several different ATV's...one has four wheels and goes offroad, the others have wings and leave the road! (Difference in price between the 2 models about $20 million)

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Flying a 172 here privately including fuel is approx $153 per hour. I think that would be about $80/hr US.

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I guess that's not too bad, really. I started flying in Canada where it's quite expensive, so I finished up all my ratings in the U.S.

Keep us posted on your aviation exploits...

Dean
 

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How did you get your replies to look like that??

You've been frequenting other sites I see that look like that but I didn't think TBN worked like that.

hmmmmmmmm

We have Bombardier jetskis etc. but I didn't know that was the same company.

Yes the CRJs aren't coming here now. Shame as they were pretty cool looking.

Cheers
 
   / Aviation GPS Units #49  
<font color=blue>Wot is that bird???</font color=blue>

C-STOL = Controlled Short Take Off & Landing. The Helio Courier of the '60s and '70s was a six place fairly ordinary looking tail dragger with the front landing gear positioned pretty far forward, Lycoming engine, crosswind landing gear was an option (and was on the plane we experimented with). It was a metal skinned plane and the most unusual feature was slats in the leading edge of the wings that extended out several inches on two rods. Those slats added tremendously to the lift, so you could take off and/or land at about 30 mph and you had fully controllable flight at 28 mph. When you reached 50 mph, they slid back into the wing with a bit of a "clang" so it was an ordinary looking fixed wing. When you dropped below 50 mph, they slid back forward of the wing. So with fully controllable flight at 28 mph, when the wind was blowing one day at about 35 mph, I flew it backwards across the airport. And you could really do some tight turns at slow speeds. With the landing gear so far forward, you could stand on the brakes very hard and not nose over, so with the combination of slow speed and hard braking, it was truly amazing when you saw the distances required to take off or land. They had pictures of one taking off and landing on a pier in New York City, and on a double tennis court somewhere. The one we had for awhile was not supercharged, so it had a cruising speed of about 164 mph, top 184. The supercharged ones would do 210 mph.

What am I typing so much for/w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif? Take a look at one at and <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.heliocourier.net>this link/ and several other places on the Internet. Truly amazing aircraft, used by the military for surveillance and recon, used by Alaskan bush pilots, etc.

<font color=blue>Were you a flyboy in (I hate to say it) your younger days??</font color=blue>

I've never had a license/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif, but in late '73 and early '74, I was Commander of the Helicopter Section of the Police Department. We had 8 Bell 47s and a DeHavilland Beaver, and a salesman trying to sell us a Helio Courier./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif I had studied the Jeppeson books and had two of my instructors giving me lessons and was about ready to go take the tests when I transferred to a different job, so never finished. So no license, and a long ways from being a pilot, but I've been at the controls of the Helio Courier, Cessna 152, and Bell 47 helicopters a few times (but always with a good pilot sitting next to me). One of the most fun trips I ever made was flying a new 152 from the factory in Kansas to Alaska (both brothers are pilots and one was selling airplanes in Anchorage back then so I went with him when he came after a new one he was selling to a flight school). Can't you tell I'm not a pilot; I still like to talk in miles per hour, not knots./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
 
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Wow Bird u have had a wonderful time haven't you !!

Sounds like a marvellous aircraft. Gets along pretty quick AND can fly slow. Just what a new pilot like me needs (I can hear Trescrows now sayign "you need a RV?")

Gee that example in the add looks like it is in mint condition.

A BRAND NEW 152. Wow I don't think I have seen anything newer than the 80's here !!!

In fact I was trawling the net for useless info yesterday and on the CASA site (Civil Aviation Safety Authority - Our regulatory body) they had stats on the age of aircraft registered here.

By far and away the biggest category was late 70's early 80's.

Goes to show no-one can afford to buy new ones !!

Cheers and thanks once again for the wealth of info.

You did have me wondering how you flew "backwards"
 
   / Aviation GPS Units #51  
<font color=blue>A BRAND NEW 152. Wow I don't think I have seen anything newer than the 80's here !!!</font color=blue>

Now remember . . . it was brand new at that time (you know old folks' memories get bad sometimes; I still say that was August 1984, but my brother tried to tell me recently that it was 1982/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif).

<font color=blue>u have had a wonderful time haven't you</font color=blue>

/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gifI think I've had my share of hard times, but as I've told some other folks, I've had a lot more fun than I deserved, too./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
 
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Bird

One of the quotes from a person who lost their house in the Canberra fires over the weekend (Actually it was Rob DeCastella - The Marathon runner) was

"What doesn't kill you will make you stronger"

You must then be Mr. Muscles /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Cheers
 
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<font color=blue>One of the quotes from a person who lost their house...</font color=blue>
The original quote /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif came from Friedrich Nietzsche in Twilight of the Idols

"What does not destroy me, makes me stronger."
 
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How did you get your replies to look like that??

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<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.tractorbynet.com/cgi-bin/compact/faq_english.pl?Cat=#markup/>click here</A> /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

{quote}text{/quote}= Surrounds the given text with blockquote and hr's. This markup tag is used for quoting a reply.

Just change the curly parenthesis { to a square one for it to work...
 
   / Aviation GPS Units #55  
(I can hear Trescrows now sayign "you need a RV?")

Yeah, exactly. What you really need is an RV9A. Equipped with an 0-320 It will cruise 40 MPH faster than the top speed of the 152, carry a greater useful load, considerably more range (useful when you live some place like Australia) and will land and take off shorter, and it stalls slower also. Best of all, since you built it, I think even in Australia, you can do the maintenence. Oh, the cabin room is roughly equal to the space alloted for the front seats of a 182--ie--big people fit and there is a roomy baggage area. These newest kits are fully prepunched. The rivet holes in the skin are punched for example but also the underlying holes in the structure are prepunched. This eliminates a great deal of work, jigging and worry. They also have semi prebuilt versions, more money but heck you got lot's of that don't you?
Nothing I can think of would look nicer attached to your new Garmin 3 Pilot than a RV9A. J
 
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Mike

That's why I log on to TBN each day. I ALWAYS learn something. I don't think the bloke professed to be the originator of his quote, in fact I think he said something along the lines of "What do they say? - What doesn't ......"

CRJ - Hmmmmm - I have enough trouble as it is.


TC - Nah - I have watched a colleague build an RV8 over the past few years. I don't have that time.


Cheers all
 

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