Awesome Discovery

   / Awesome Discovery #1  

GordNovo

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So yesterday I discovered that a 5 ft box blade makes an excellent tool for snow removal. It's so good in fact, that I think I'll cut my rear snow blower usage down by 80%. There are countless discussions on these forums regarding rear or front blades for snow, but you rarely hear of someoe suggesting the box blade!

Are there others who've used this implement for snow? What are your thoughts?

I've used it 3 times now, and I think it's superior to rear snow blower for the following reasons:

1. No shear bolts to worry about (heck, no moving parts at all!) The blower has at least two bolts, one on the shaft, and one for the auger. It's kind of a tradition to blow a few of these on the first blower outing every winter (finding those random rocks that you never noticed before the snow came down!)

2. You spend more time going forward than reverse. This is a big relief on my neck! Plus, you can generally go faster because you're going forward and feel more in control of the tractor.

3. You pull the snow where you want it and then you back up and push it out of the way. I would imagine that a rear bb would be superior to a front blade as it would be easier to get snow out of corners or other tight spots. Plus with the BB on the back, it frees up the front for the loader for added weight or material handling.

4. Easier to use on windy days - There's no mist of snow blowing in your face. Plus, you're not contstantly winding the chute to point in the right direction, as you go back and forth on the driveway.

5. It's better for the surrounding lawn during those first few uses on a gravel driveway when you normally litter your grass with rocks and pebbles

6. When you lower the BB in reverse, it cuts through the packed snow much better than a snow blower. I made quick work of a fairly thick accumulation of hard-packed snow in front of the garage doors. This would've been impossible with the blower.

7. It leaves a neater finish. It leaves no tracks behind and makes the freshly finished driveway look awesome. My wife came home from work this evening just after I finished our 300 ft X 40 ft driveway and commented on how 'well manacured' it looked.

8. When you remove the scarifiers, it leaves lots of space for snow buildup in the box, so it actually moves a lot of volume in a single pass.

9. With a fully loaded bucket for weight, and tire chains on the back, it can push a fairly large mound of snow fairly easily

10. Because the 2305 doesn't have very good position control for the 3PH, I found it tricky adjusting the 3ph height so it doesn't get hung up, or gauge the ground. With a box blade, I quickly/easily lower all the way to the ground, let the frame sit and do all the leveling and contouring for me.

11. Quicker dismount from tractor - No more forgetting to turn off the PTO when you jump off the machine while it's still running. I'm in the habit of putting it into Neutral, but the engaged PTO usually gets me.


I can really think of only one key advantage of the rear-mount blower:

1. It moves more snow and you rarely need to touch the same snow twice. Once you blow it, it's generally gone. With the BB, you may go over the same spot a couple of times or pull, then push the same pile out of the way.

So my snow clearing strategy this winter will be to use the BB for the bulk of clearing jobs. I'll push and pile the snow to the edges, then come along with the blower and demolish the piles in 30 seconds flat!

Man, I thought my tractor was snow-killing machine last winter with the blower and bucket combo, but now it's like the Godzilla of the driveway and yard!

All we need now is more snow!
 
   / Awesome Discovery #2  
Are you clearing snow on pavement or on gravel. My driveway is crushed shale and gouging is always an issue. I have a 2210 and last year I used a reversed back blade to good effect, but then I didnt have any large accumulations. When I purchased the land rake with gauge wheels the salesman from TSC said it was good at snow removal when it was heavily angled. You make a good point about pushing the snow backwards since using the fel requires backing over the snow and thereby compressing it.
 
   / Awesome Discovery #3  
If you like the box blade wait till you try a conventional back blade! I only had a box blade for the first winter with my tractor. Talk about frustration. It worked ok on very light snows (a couple of inches or less), but more than that and I was spending more time transporting the snow than actually removing it from the driveway. Then I got the rear blade which will angle. Now in a single pass I can move the snow from the drive to the side, where it belongs. Of course, there's the issue of snow banks, which can build up and need to be pushed back (quality tractor time!). For me, the ultimate will be the blower. I have one on my little Craftsman lawn tractor, but haven't even installed it in the last couple of years.

How much snow do you get?
 
   / Awesome Discovery #4  
I have a Frontier BB, but don't use it on my driveway as it is Blacktop. I also had a snowblower for my little craftsman tractor, but we get so much wind that it was self-defeating to me. So I use my FEL on my 4600 and it handles everything quite nicely. My kids like the piles for sledding, too. :D

I'm sure a snowblower would work well too, but I can think of other implements to spend money on. ;) Now we just need to get some killer amounts of snow here in MN..!

-Bob
 
   / Awesome Discovery #5  
You do hear some of the old timers refering to using the box to clear snow, just look at what the standard is now for big commercial parking lots, it's the pusher box, up to 12-16 feet wide, but they're not pulling them, they're pushing them with big loaders.
I have both the 60" box and the 72" rear blade, I have used the box a little, but do most of my snow removal with the 73" high volume front bucket and keep the rear blade on the back for ballast and getting some of the tight spots.
The box is a good design though, just the reason they're so popular with the commercial contractors, you don't get the spill out the sides like with regular plows.
 

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