Price Check B7610 applications, options and price?

[nomad289]

Hi All,

I'm new to the forum but have been reading it for several months. Used to have a ~16HP Kubota with FEL, rear tiller and mower--should have kept it.

My property is 2.5 acres of gently rolling hill with an irrigation ditch along the back 300 ft. of property. Mostly lawn w/short fescue, with some larger trees along the ditch and other trees along the perimeter.

I plan to use the tractor for:
#1: Digging a koi pond about 30 x 40 x 2.5 ft. deep, steep side walls. Loader and backhoe?

#2: Mowing. Suspended MMM the best?

#3: Backhoe to keep ditch clear and route water/pipes to pond.

#4: Probably buy a tiller too for the garden.

#5: Honey do--berms and such. (she says buy it!)

BX seemed too small, B3030 too big, the 7610 is just right.

What do you think of this equipment selection for these jobs. Will all these fit/work together on the machine (ie compatible?) How's the "best price" I've been quoted so far (will need to transport 800 miles round trip)

Thanks in advance for your advice--I'll be gone for a week but would appreciate any feedback and guidance.


Kubota B7610 w/folding ROPS and front grill guard.
LA352FL-1
RCK54-75B
Please quote overall price with and without the backhoe:
B4672

Package price with backhoe $21,980.00 or without backhoe $15800.00 and then a cash discount of $500.00

 

[Bob_Skurka]

Seems to me that if you have to transport the tractor 800 miles then it is not such a good deal if you need to have some service in the future. Heck just the gas for a 1600 mile (round trip) jouney, the time involved, food for the road, etc is going to add up to a tidy sum. I think I'd rather work a little harder on getting a better deal locally, even if it is not quite as good as the quote you got, it may be cheaper after all the other costs are considered.

 

[nomad289]

OK, I left out a pertinent fact:

In state has a captive market where prices are high.
Out of state has lots of competition.

So, out of state costs:
$21480 + 800 miles @12mpg = $200 fuel. Wear 'n tear on vehicle is say $.50c mile or $400. I will haul it in my 28ft toyhauler (if it fits) so my food/lodging is minimal.

Time is valuable but I'd rather drive than work.

In state, Higher prices: The first thing they asked me on the phone was "where do you live". Seems they've got me and they know it.

Out of state = $600 plus 4 days travel plus food.
In state = captive market.
Just can't win.

So, what about the base price and my equipment choices?

 

[Bob_Skurka]

You do realize that when you bring the tractor back in state you are subject to your state's "use tax" which is equal to the 7% sales tax so you will end up paying that tax one way or the other. Futher, buying a tractor out of state with the specific intent of avoiding tax is considered "Tax Evasion" and is against the law. If/when caught you will not only pay the tax, but a penalty, and interest on both the tax and the penalty from the date you purchased the tractor. It typically takes 2 to 3 years to get the notice from your state's tax agency that you owe the taxes, penalties and interest. If you finance your tractor purchase the odds of getting caught climb substantially over paying cash.

Disclaimer, I am not a tax attorney or accountant, however I have been used as an expert witness by a fortune 500 company in national litigation and have testified on cross-border tax inequities in several midwestern states covering the specific topics of how tax differenentials affect buying habits and budget of states, bootlegging of goods across state borders, etc.
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[nomad289]

H'mm, so I might as well just go down and buy one this weekend locally as long as their not $600 plus 4 days driving more expensive--tax is a wash. That would indeed be easy


What do you think of this equipment selection for these jobs. Will all these fit/work together on the machine (ie compatible?)

Mower: will suspended MMM work with BH? Is suspended a better choice than the "on ground" units?

BH: Will this be usefull and fun for the jobs or a waste of money? Dug my last pond with FEL and tiller.

Thanks,

Don

 

[Bob_Young]

Don,
Welcome. Where are you located?

The 'on-ground' mowers for the B7610 are ruggeder, heavier, and more likely to leave gauge wheel streaks in the lawn when grass/soil is damp. From what I've seen here, suspended does a nicer appearing job under most conditions. My MMM is on-ground and less than perfect under damp conditions; however, I'm not too fussy about the lawn and consider the ruggedness and the ease of removal (once I figured it out) of the ground-unit to be fair trade-offs.

You might want to check into what's required to R&R the suspended mower before buying it. Also, do you have full utility of the 3pt. hitch while the suspended mower is installed? Due to ground clearance issues, I don't think you would want to leave the mower installed while you dig out the pond with the backhoe. Nor do I think you would want to do your tilling with the mower installed...though it might work OK. If you have to mow once a week, that could mean a mower R&R cycle each week while you are building the pond. If it is a PITA, you'll be spending time each week struggling with the mower that could be used to get in a hour or two of digging or tilling.

The nice thing about the on-ground mowers is that the gauge wheels retain the mower adjustments through the R&R cycle. Also, using the FEL to raise the front wheels of the tractor, makes MMM remove/replace much easier than the procedure given in the manual. The suspended mowers may retain their settings and be just as easy to R&R, but you should check beforehand.
Bob

 

[nomad289]

Hi Bob,

Thanks!

Good idea on the MMM removal using the FEL to lift the tractor. My last tractor had an on-the-ground 3-pt mower, it gouged the wet soil badly on each sharp turn. A MMM might not be so bad.

You're right about changing implements, that could take a lot of work. I'll plan to just use the backhoe/loader for the pond, and use the MMM after I'm done. I have a garden tractor I can use in the mean time.