Backhoe + Cab Tractors + Woods Series

[Vaulter98c]

First of all, Im new here, and this looks to be a great board. Lots of specific info, and a good community. Ive been lurk'n for about a week, and yall seem like a nice bunch.

Before I get into anything, Id like to say that Im very interested in getting a B3030 TLB setup. Im probolly going to go with the BH75, but might be convinced to get the BH80x from Woods. They are practicly the same, with the Woods being the better, but both should work for my needs.

Anyways, enough about me, my question is this: What exactly is it on the B3030HSDC (Cab version) that prevents a backhoe? From what I can tell, its just the rear window (looking at pics, I obviously dont have the tractor yet...) that prevents the seat from going in, other than that, it looks like a fit to me. So, is that all that prevents the 3030Cab from running a backhoe? I could remove that Back window and put in a roll up leather wall with a vinyl window in it like on motorcars during the warm season, and then take the BH off and put the glass on during the snow season.

From the pics I have studied, and this is not scientific or facts or anything, but it looks like the sole problem is the ability to put a seat on for the BH, which, theoreticly, couldnt you put one in if the back window wasnt there? Or how about the Woods BH's, they look like they sit a tiny bit farther away from the tractor than the BH75, so that should make it easier to fab up a bracket to adjust the seat location.

Just let me know yalls thoughts on this, and again, great place yall got here.

 

[Oleozz]

Have a friend named Paul who posts here on occasion, he has a Kubota cab tractor, I think about the size that you are looking at, and he has a Woods backhoe on his tractor. He never mentioned having any problems with it fitting on the tractor.

 

[amigauser]

I own a B3030 cab tractor but no backhoe.

My understanding is that the factory Kubota backhoe mount does not work with the B3030 cab model as there is not enough clearance between the back of the cab and the backhoe assembly. The Woods 70x/80x backhoe mount further back and thus will work with both a regular B3030 and the cab model.

I believe the Woods is a much better hoe to. There were a lot of reports here a year or so ago about bending the hydraulic cylinders on the Kubota hoe. I think Kubota came out with a fix but the Woods still has better specs.

FYI,
Norm

 

[kubotabilly]

Kubota 3430HSTC + Woods 4 point subframe + Woods backhoe = cab tractor with a backhoe .

Bill

 

[Vaulter98c]

so, if I get the woods bh80x on a b3030hsdc cab tractor, it will fit? I know the bigger ones gave more room so it would work that way, but does that apply to the smaller 3030? this would be good. any other thoughts, would it be too top heavy?

 

[kubotabilly]

so, if I get the woods bh80x on a b3030hsdc cab tractor, it will fit? I know the bigger ones gave more room so it would work that way, but does that apply to the smaller 3030? this would be good. any other thoughts, would it be too top heavy?

You should see your dealer and have him check with Woods to see if there is a 4 point subframe available for the B3030hsdc. Then he can size the correct backhoe for your tractor.

Bill

 

[Oleozz]

Kubota 3430HSTC + Woods 4 point subframe + Woods backhoe = cab tractor with a backhoe .

Bill

Question for you Billy, how much of a pain is it getting in and out of the cab to work on the hoe? I have a cab Kioti and have just about given up on the idea of a hoe because of the inconvenience of getting in and out. I've looked at mini excavators but wow, they are expensive.

 

[Vaulter98c]

^^ +1
Also, Do you feel the 3030Cab would still be top heavy as a TLB setup?? Ive read that thats the only real problem with that unit. I hope.

 

[Kendall69]

My dealer explained all backhoes including Kuboto's will fit. The problem is a liability issue on Kubotas part, because you can not "easily" get to the PTO controls, or speed control with the cab. Take that for what it's worth.
He did explain that they have frames with the woods that fit all the Kubota stuff, including the newer ones.
I had a woods on my 4310 and it was a work horse, never a problem with it. Years later when I called for a tech question Woods treated me like I just purchased the unit and spent as much time as I needed, great company.

 

[Vaulter98c]

Top Heavy?
And is the cab really worth it?
What can one expect to pay for a TLB setup with the woods and cab?

Thanks.

 

[kubotabilly]

Question for you Billy, how much of a pain is it getting in and out of the cab to work on the hoe? I have a cab Kioti and have just about given up on the idea of a hoe because of the inconvenience of getting in and out. I've looked at mini excavators but wow, they are expensive.

It is somewhat of a pain but so is digging the ditch with a garden shovel
If I'm in wide open territory, I usually leave the door open. If I'm in close quarters, I close the door everytime. Then again, if it's raining and you want to finish that dig, you simply open the rear cab window and you have an instant roof over your head . I sometimes take the neighbor boy along and he drives the tractor and I stay on the hoe .

Bill

 

[Vaulter98c]

Does the seat on the 3030 spin around? I didnt think it did, but do you think one could be fabbed up? Ive read many times over, in just a few days so I missed more, about how the seats suck. If so, does the back window open still clear the backhoe operation area? (like, does it get in the way of the boom?) I could remove the solid glass window in the summer and put a rollup window there, with an extension from the roof to provide shade and some rain protection (prolly shouldnt use the hoe in the rain any ways..) Just some thoughts.

Im interested in the cab version, very much so, but I dont know if I want to drop the big bucks on it. I know it will be an investment, cuz my dad still drives his old '41 case around and uses it to backdrag all the work I did with a loaner Case 580L (12 years old). ****, even at the campgrounds where my grandparents spend their summers they have a compact TLB, but closer to the L39 size, that does all their work for the past 20+years.

Again tho, is it top heavy to you? I was a nationally ranked power lifter a few back, but the Army changed that, so I have plenty of weight plates around. Think a few 55's on one side would help if I knew my angles?

Thanks for your help, and I wish I could get your exact setup there, its a nice TLB

 

[GreenMtns]

I had the same questions when I bought my 3520 Cab. I sent an e-mail to Woods and they e-mailed an owners manual to me showing how the BH is mounted. I would give that a try. They are quick to answer and very helpful.

Al

 

[MarkV]

Does the seat on the 3030 spin around? I didnt think it did, but do you think one could be fabbed up? Ive read many times over, in just a few days so I missed more, about how the seats suck. If so, does the back window open still clear the backhoe operation area? (like, does it get in the way of the boom?) I could remove the solid glass window in the summer and put a rollup window there, with an extension from the roof to provide shade and some rain protection (prolly shouldnt use the hoe in the rain any ways..) Just some thoughts

No the seat does not spin around; the 3pt backhoes have their own seat. I suspect that even with the rear window removed and a spinning seat you would be to far from the hoe controls if there were any leg room to sit.

I think Kendall69 has it right and liabilities are what keep Kubota from offering the backhoe as an option. They don’t recommend filling the tires on a cab tractor because of the added weight in the event of a roll over.

MarkV

 

[machmeter62]

First of all, welcome to this site that has a wealth of experience with anything with moving parts and beyond! One other issue of your future TLB; Kubota 3030, if you plan on trailering it, is the departure angle with the hoe mounted farther aft of the rear wheels on the cab models--- when backing off the trailer, scraping the lower boom section may result? Some of the manufactures will list that info also degrees? But you may also back the tractor on the trailer to prevent this?