Buying Advice Backhoe for BX2350

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Well, lets see... Cast aluminum vs cast steel.... You obviously are of the opinion that the two material types can compare favorably to each other when considering strength. I can't help you if you truly are that...um.... uninformed??? to understand that cast aluminum in a stress bearing member is not in any way comparable to a cast steel member. I don't need web links to explain that, you need common sense to understand it though.

Yes, I am looking at a small CUT in the 25/26HP range that can be configured as a TLB/MMM.
So I looked at:
Kioti CK2510, you can not have MMM brackets on and swap to the backhoe.
Kioti CK2610, no belly mower
Massey Ferguson 1526, no backhoe exists.
LS XJ2025, can not have mower brackets on the chassis and swap to a backhoe.
Mahindra Max 26 XL, low range is a very slow max speed, high range can not move the weight of the tractor on my 17 degree property.
TYM/Branson/Yanmar have no dealers within any reasonable range of me, so I crossed them off of the list.

So after spending days driving around dealers and talking to them, all tell me I can not get what I want from their brand aside from Kubota. Kubota has the B2301/B2601 that can be had in TLB/MMM and have no issue with MMM brackets remaining to allow you go and quickly drop the deck and pick up the backhoe. So based on weeks of digging, I am stuck with a choice of one paint color.

Oh, John Deere can do the 2025R TLB/MMM as I like for $30,000 or the 2032R TLB/MMM for $34,000 but that does not compare financially favorably against the Kubota B2601 TLB/MMM for around $27,000. So thinking about it, there are 2 choices... orange or green.

As for the recycled statement, much of the metallic products made today are in fact old products that are reconstituted. The world痴 stock of aluminium in use is like a resource bank. Around 75 percent of aluminium ever produced is still in use, and some of it has been through countless recycle loops.

You have companies such as Croniment Corp that work around the globe collecting various alloys and base materials for delivery to customers that wish to create mixes of alloys.

Your refrigerator outer stainless sheeting very likely originated from Croniment Corp or a similar company.

How it works is a company that melts metals to fulfill material orders for manufacturers calls and says "I want to create 304SS sheeting, I need 100 tons of material to create it.".

The scrap collector pulls 60 tons of this, 20 tons of that, 10 tons of that, 5 tons of this, 2.5 tons of that over there and 2.5 tons of that over there. They put the scrap into roll off dumps and deliver it where it is melted and mixed and it becomes that specified alloy to be used. Then it is made into rolls and sent out for use making your dishwasher/refrigerator.... or poured into an investment casting mold for your John Deer/Kubota rear axle cases. Yes, recycled beer cans are extremely likely to be in that mix.

Your John Deere/Kubota rear axle is aluminum and is far more likely to be a re-recycled product of varying origins than not. I guess if Kubota wanted to spend the kind of money for virgin material... they could. But I sure would not bet on. Being that it is aluminum it is also inherently more likely to fail over time than a much more robust cast steel case. It is what it is.

Well lets see... I am very well informed but You haven't been able to quantify any of your broad-brush opinions with facts or verified links. Never mind.

Cast Aluminium is in every way comparable to cast steel in appropriate circumstances. Manufacturers use it for strength at low weight in many applications including rear transmission housings, engine blocks, Auto trans bell-housings, Steering boxes, Hydraulic pumps & motors etc. They cast appropriate webbing and reinforcement to support the loads expected to be met in normal usage. As Dodge Man says - Very few Al. transmissons fail.

Now there seems to be two, yes two, not one, manufacturer(s) which/who can 'do what you want' and within 10-20% of pricing.

All I'm saying is you wrote a crock of crap by using emotive phrasing with no factual support. There is more of it in your above but I'm not interested in trading insults with the unidentified. "Likely" does not mean "definitely''. (without a supporting link reference). Hearsay is not fact.

Just to finish by pointing out the word is spelled 'A l u m i n i u m' with (2 x i's) It has the Atomic Number 13 on the Periodic Table (Al). Aluminium - definition of aluminium by The Free Dictionary
However, the scientific world allow you guys to abbreviate it to 'Aluminum' for some reason that few can appreciate.

And "Cheaped" isn't a word yet. nor is the phrase 'Cheaped out' recognised by an American dictionary: Cheaped out - definition of cheaped out by The Free Dictionary

I do hope you buy an Orange machine, so we can read of your trials & tribulations. Don't buy one of the Green ones - You'll have nothing to moan about.

We don't have the 27hp emissions cut-off parameter here. I now see that is the overriding factor in your search and you will be restricted to Al. rear ends for sure. A sub-frame will feature in the installation for sure to transfer loads and stress across the mainframe. The risk in these small SCUTS is that due to the restrictions the buyer places on himself (Finance and HP in your case) the machine is asked to work outside its designed parameters/loads and something breaks and the tractor gets the blame, unfairly. :2cents:
Best wishes.
 

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