Backhoe Backhoe Hydraulics Jinma 284

   / Backhoe Hydraulics Jinma 284 #1  

PeteW

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Jinma 284. Shibaura SE4040
I've just fitted an LW-6 to my new Jinma 284. I got all the air out of the system and all the rams are operating, but oil is not returning from the backhoe tank to the tractor. Also, I can only operate the hoe by holding the tractor hydraulic control lever on "Raise". Has anybody else had this experience , or can tell me what I've got wrong??
 
   / Backhoe Hydraulics Jinma 284 #2  
If you are using the tractor's hydraulic pump to run the BH, why are you using a hydraulic resovoir tank on the BH? I would say if it has it's own tank, it is probably plummed to be using it's own(PTO driven) hydraulic pump. Due to the demands of a BH, most have their own pumps and do not even connect into the tractors hydraulics.

If you are using the tractor hydraulic pump I would say it should be plummed as follows. From the High pressure quick connect(Female) on the back of the tractor, A male connector plugs into this fitting and runs via hose to the inlet port on the gang of BH spool valves. The return port from this gang of valves flows through a hose with a female connector on the end that plugs onto the male quick connect return fitting on the rear of the tractor, which runs back into the right rear corner of the tractors hydraulic resovoir.

From what I have gathered studying my system, rear hydraulics seem to have been a afterthought on the Jinma. The pressure supplied to that rear pressure quick connect is the same pressure supplied from the 3point hitch hydraulic control valve to the 3PH lift cylinder. The only difference is the pressure going/comming from the 3PH cylinder goes through the lowering speed regulating valve located in front of the seat. In order to apply pressure to that quick connect, you must have the 3PH control in the "Raise" position. To keep the 3PH cylinder from raising the arms at the same time and the control linkage that is attached to the right arm from bumping the 3ph control lever back to "neutral" when the arms reach the top, you must fully close the 3PH speed/rate control knob in front of the seat(turn fully clockwise, be sure and loosen the locking setscrew first). This will prevent fluid from being sent to the 3PH cylinder and the arms will not try and raise. With the control knob screwed closed, all the pressure/flow will be sent to that rear female quick connect fitting.

My plain 284 only has the pressure fitting, it dosn't have a return fitting like the LE models do. I think mine was intended to operate a single acting cylinder on a dump trailer. With the rate knob in front of the seat closed, a dump trailer could be raised and lowered with the 3PH control lever.
 
   / Backhoe Hydraulics Jinma 284 #3  
Hi RonMar, I have a new 284 LE (July 2005) and it does not have a return connection at the rear. My LW-6 backhoe I think is supposed to run off the tractor. It came without the quick fit connection and I am very uncertain on how to resolve this issue. I have sent emails to our friends in China but no luck so far. Any ideas or can you show me with a drawing where I should install a return line on my JM 284? Thanks for your help.
Leslie
 
   / Backhoe Hydraulics Jinma 284 #4  
Did yours come with a small pump that could mount to the rear of the tractor. Also, do you have an external resevoir tank with the attachment?
 
   / Backhoe Hydraulics Jinma 284 #5  
Hi, no pump was included. Here are some pictures of the BH and the back of the 284 LE. Only a female quick connect on the back of the tractor and the two hoses from the BH, one comes from the valve control setup and one from the auxilary tank. Do you know where I could by a hydraulic pump that I could set up on my PTO? Thanks for your help.
 

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Here is the picture of the rear of the 284 LE as you can see only one connection.
 

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   / Backhoe Hydraulics Jinma 284 #7  
If you have the auxillary tank, you need the external pump for easiest install. Tommy or Chip probably has one. If not PM me and I will get one for you.
 
   / Backhoe Hydraulics Jinma 284 #8  
Hi Bruce, Yes it has its own hydraulic tank. See enclosed picture. Who is Tommy or Chip?? I am really a newbie at this. What would be required to do this installation. Would the chinese made hoses and connections work with this pump. Is there a mounting block that comes with it? Does it bolt to the back of the tractor directly on the PTO shaft? How much and what is the delivery delay? I am in Canada in the province of Quebec. Let me know if you can. Thanks again for your help.
 

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   / Backhoe Hydraulics Jinma 284 #9  
Bruce, went out and took better pictures of the tank and the back of the backhoe. Here you go. Thanks for your help.
 

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   / Backhoe Hydraulics Jinma 284 #10  
This is a picture of the backhoe from China for a Jinma 284 LE, as you can see it does have the auxilary hydraulic tank and also the connectors are standard and not quick connect as they are on the tractor, oooops, only one quick connector on the tractor.
 

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