Backhoe Quandry

[CountryBoy72]

Hello All:

I met with the dealer last Saturday to close on a L2800 with package including a FEL, 4690B BH with sub-frame kit and auger.

Today he called and informed me that both the BH4690 model AND the BH75 model are basically unavailable. He said he searched in a 500 mile radius and found nothing.

His alternative BH suggestion is perhaps going with a Rhino 65A. I want/prefer a Kubota backhoe so all implements are consistent with the tractor. In stating this, he suggested either going to a 3030 or downgrading to the B series. The dealer does carry Rhino implements and I am sure (?) Rhino makes a fine product, like Woods, that are capable of being fitted to a variety of CUT brands. Furthermore, I think a BH made for the tractor is usually better than another brand that uses a retrofit. Also, the Rhino 65A would be another $300 upcharge.

I don't have the impression this guy is doing a bait and switch. I called the only two other Kubota dealers in a 100 miles of me and they also indicated the BH75 and 4690 are hard to find new. None could tell me whether KTC is simply phasing out these two BH models due to low demand or if the company is on the brink of introducing a new replacement model. Downsizing my selected model may get me the right Kubota BH but the tractor might come in a tad short on the light construction needs (Shed ground prep, fencing, etc). Going up on models puts a harsher hit on my budget that's for sure.

So, with this long-winded story, has anyone heard of a replacement for the BH75 or 4690B on the horizon? I was reading about the new BH75A with a heavier (7 ga. steel) for the boom and arm but from what I've read to this point, it seems KTC has little info on the "A'" relative to the L2800 CUT model. Can any of you fine folks provide some futher info as to the phase out/new model aspect of the KTC BH's?

A ton of thanks in advance.

 

[rickster]

I have a B7800 and If I were in the market for a BH I would be getting a Woods
That is one sweet looking BH I like the frame mount.

 

[machmeter62]

First of all, what is going to be the basic use of the backhoe? Any plans of future construction of a new home, long trenching projects, and etc? If these are going to be an issue? I wouldn't consider the BH75, or other 7'-6" hoes period, you spend as much time moving them as digging, if you are going to any depth! The disadvantage of a smaller tractor with similar hoe, is tractor weight. The tractor will be lifting off the outriggers in hard soil, which becomes a (PITA), with the bouncing effect! If home construction becomes a future project, and you are able to stretch your finances, get a tractor that can handle the 9' hoe. It will make a lot of difference in capability. That hoe can be used for many other things besides digging, if construction is involved. Also, I would consider resale value if you decide to sell? One last point on size. If your needs ever require a septic system for home construction; a 7'-6" hoe won't get the job done, forcing you to contract it out?

 

[rbargeron]

Small backhoes don't move much earth at a time. They are a fun alternative to a hand shovel - but serious excavation needs bigger tools. My backhoe is still just a toy, it's an 11-foot Bradco with 24" bucket. Sunday it took over an hour hour and at least two moves to dig out the stump of a 14" maple. Stump weight was around 2500 pounds - FEL was maxed out moving it to the pile. Admittedly a more experienced operator might have done it quicker, but the point is that small backhoes are just that - small. A real machine would have popped that stump with one dip. It comes down to how much of your treasure you are willing to apply to having your own personal dominion over a small amount of earth. Everyone has their own comfort zone.

 

[art]

Stump weight was around 2500 pounds - FEL was maxed out moving it to the pile. Admittedly a more experienced operator might have done it quicker, but the point is that small backhoes are just that - small. A real machine would have popped that stump with one dip.

Real operator and a ten ton machine maybe on one dip.

 

[crazyal]

I have to agree with Art. Although I would guess it would take me 5 minutes or so to pop that stump with my backhoe they always seam to take more than expected. I have found that once they are loose if you keep flipping them over in the hole with the BH you can shake off lots of the dirt to help lighten the stump.

 

[5030]

I've found the absolute best way to pull a stump is borrowing my neighbors boom truck with it's 30 ton Braden winch and yanking it out.....from the comfort of the cab, of course.

 

[TonyS]

I agree with the other posts, the BH75 is a little short for extensive use. I thought it was plenty big enough when I bought it but I could surely use some extra length now. Story of my life!