Backhoe/Stability Question

   / Backhoe/Stability Question #1  

Rayder

Bronze Member
Joined
Mar 11, 2005
Messages
53
Location
Oregon
Tractor
John Deere 4320
OK, kind of a strange question. I have a 448 Backhoe that I usually do not keep on the back of my 4320, primarily for the reason I'm about to explain (I take it on and off as I need it). If I'm doing loader or grapple work I usually keep my box blade on the back for weight (I also have liquid in my rear tires).

My property is sloped in some parts and I spend more time than I care to going across the slope. When I have my backhoe on, my tractor feels much less stable on a sideslope. So, my question is am I crazy? I know the backhoe packs a lot of weight, but is the weight high enough so that it actually would make the tractor less stable on a slope as opposed to carrying a box blade. I don't know if it is just the way that my tractor handles the extra weight of the hoe (meaning I'm not used to the way it handles with all that weight on the back). I do always put the hoe in transport position when moving it around.

I guess I'm curious if the tractor is more or less stable with the backhoe on or off (on a slope ... I don't have any issues on flat ground). The 448 is a snap to get on and off so I don't mind my current practice, but I am curious if my gut feeling is wrong.
 
   / Backhoe/Stability Question #2  
Your gut is trying tell you to be carefull!

That backhoe adds a lot of mass above the axles...not the place you want it to be!
And, as a percentage of the tractor's weight, I'd wager you're 'hoe adds 15% to 20% more mass to your tractor. Then, you've got the added weight of the loader, if installed.

I even notice less stability with my loader on...same reason as the 'hoe. A lot of weight above the axles. I'm sure you also have your loader installed...I believe Deere requires it with a 'hoe. Just stand back and look at all that steel above your axles.

If you filled your rear tires, that will help somewhat. Make sure you won't be overloading the rear axle rating if you do that.

Just make sure you've got your seat belt on when crossing those slopes!
 
   / Backhoe/Stability Question #3  
I have the 48 hoe on my 4410 and notice the same feeling. During transport on slopes I shift the hoe from a centered position to the side. This allows one to use the weight of the hoe to your advantage.

Craig
 
   / Backhoe/Stability Question #4  
Fill the tires, if you haven't already, this adds weight down low without adding weight to the axles...
 

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