Battery/cable question

[nap61]

I have a Bobcat CT225 that is about 7 yrs. old. It has done everything I needed from the day I got it until last weekend. Then, it did nothing; no start, no "click", no gauge movement - nothing. The battery (original) has been going, going, going, but with a charge did it's job. In fact, after a week it still registered well in the green on my el cheapo tester. However, I figured it was time to put it to sleep and spring for a replacement. When I tried to remove the positive clamp, it broke in two. It had corroded through. I think that was the main problem. So, I will also replace the positive cable.
Question: The positive cable seems to run directly to the "solenoid" on the starter. Is this correct or are these old eyes missing something?
Any tips, cautions, "land mines" or comments are appreciated.

Norm

 

[lilranch2001]

The Bobcat cable design is very proprietary and chinsy
One of the few things I do not like about the Bobcat

I paid the big bucks to replace it with OEM, not sure if a off the shelf will work

I will look into it before I buy a second one

 

[lilranch2001]

And yes it does connect directly to the starter solinoid

 

[dickfoster]

I have a Bobcat CT225 that is about 7 yrs. old. It has done everything I needed from the day I got it until last weekend. Then, it did nothing; no start, no "click", no gauge movement - nothing. The battery (original) has been going, going, going, but with a charge did it's job. In fact, after a week it still registered well in the green on my el cheapo tester. However, I figured it was time to put it to sleep and spring for a replacement. When I tried to remove the positive clamp, it broke in two. It had corroded through. I think that was the main problem. So, I will also replace the positive cable.
Question: The positive cable seems to run directly to the "solenoid" on the starter. Is this correct or are these old eyes missing something?
Any tips, cautions, "land mines" or comments are appreciated.

Norm

Sounds right to me. The big cable is for the higher current the starter pulls. There is a smaller fused wire somewhere for the lights and stuff that don't pull as much current. Just like your car or truck.

 

[k0ua]

I have a Bobcat CT225 that is about 7 yrs. old. It has done everything I needed from the day I got it until last weekend. Then, it did nothing; no start, no "click", no gauge movement - nothing. The battery (original) has been going, going, going, but with a charge did it's job. In fact, after a week it still registered well in the green on my el cheapo tester. However, I figured it was time to put it to sleep and spring for a replacement. When I tried to remove the positive clamp, it broke in two. It had corroded through. I think that was the main problem. So, I will also replace the positive cable.
Question: The positive cable seems to run directly to the "solenoid" on the starter. Is this correct or are these old eyes missing something?
Any tips, cautions, "land mines" or comments are appreciated.

Norm

Yes, the positive cable typically runs to the starter solenoid stud. Be sure to replace the negative cable connections last. I always recommend using dielectric grease on both the posts and the entire battery clamp inside and out and a short ways down the insulation to prevent air and acid fumes from reaching the metal inside. In over 30 years of doing this (I use Sanchem's NoOxId) i have never had a single failure of a cable or clamp or any corrosion. If you do what I say, you will never have a corrosion issue either.

 

[dickfoster]

The Bobcat cable design is very proprietary and chinsy
One of the few things I do not like about the Bobcat

I paid the big bucks to replace it with OEM, not sure if a off the shelf will work

I will look into it before I buy a second one

I use welding cable, buy terminals and put them on myself for most anything.

 

[lilranch2001]

But the problem is to correctly route the cable the way Bobcat has it designed, the cable turns down 90 degrees right at the edge of the battery
I have looked high and low for any battery terminal that can accommodate that and as of yet no success

And I agree with James, I bought the "stuff" he recommends NO-OX? and so far have had good success

I have just re read James post and he listed it

 

[k0ua]

But the problem is to correctly route the cable the way Bobcat has it designed, the cable turns down 90 degrees right at the edge of the battery
I have looked high and low for any battery terminal that can accommodate that and as of yet no success

And I agree with James, I bought the "stuff" he recommends NO-OX? and so far have had good success

I have just re read James post and he listed it

In those 30 Plus years I have never had to actually buy in of the NoOxId. I have been using the left overs in the tubes and jars all these years from all the PBX battery systems I have installed years ago. I am getting a bit low though. Might have to actually buy some if I live long enough.

 

[lilranch2001]

It amazes me that 15 cents worth of material could end most of these corrosion issues, why doesn't OEM's use it on all battery connections?

 

[dickfoster]

It amazes me that 15 cents worth of material could end most of these corrosion issues, why doesn't OEM's use it on all battery connections?

Because everyone wants to be in the razor blade business?

 

[lilranch2001]

I do not think I can live long enough to use all of mine, and I have even given some to friends and neighbors

 

[k0ua]

It amazes me that 15 cents worth of material could end most of these corrosion issues, why doesn't OEM's use it on all battery connections?

Every PBX battery installation kit that was ever shipped to me came with a supply of NoOxId grease and application instructions and a dissertation on why it was important to cover every terminal to prevent corrosion. . It is the difference between professional installation techniques and consumer products.

 

[k0ua]

I do not think I can live long enough to use all of mine, and I have even given some to friends and neighbors

I am down to my last partial tube, but it has taken a lot of years. I also have used it for weatherproofing antenna hardware parts. When installing mobile antenna mounting brackets on automobiles, I discovered if I coated the screws with NoOxId before I ran them into the cars sheetmetal they nor the sheetmetal rusted or corroded. When I traded cars and removed the mounting brackets, the screws and sheetmetal was as clean as the day I drove them in.

 

[nap61]

Many thanks to those who replied.

LILRANCH2001
Have you ever replaced an OEM 90* cable clamp with an off -the -shelf clamp.

Norm

 

[lilranch2001]

No, it may be possible, but at the time of failure it was much quicker for me to order the cable and pay the ~$80 for me than to investigate if a standard /batterycable connector would be somehow able to be re-routed or to chase around looking for a specialized connector.
So far I have looked almost anytime I go to a parts store or am online looking at different parts, so far I have had no luck.

I may look to see how difficult it may be to re-route sometime..... :confused3:

Right now isn't that time for me
If you do find out please let all of us Bobcat owners know

Does Kioti have the screwy connector?
Maybe buying a Kioti connector/cable is the right play??