BIG water trailer?

[Duffster]

Doesn't change the fact that an unbaffled tanker is inherently less safe than a baffled tanker.

They are not enough less safe to not use them in this application. Baffles make no difference in a full load and the OP will only be at a partial load for a very short period of time when offloading. Milk truck are probably one of the best options for the OP. They are made of SS, readily available and have a large capacity.

If baffle are that big of a deal there are other ways to baffle a tank, like baffle balls.

 

[Duffster]

Sounds like a Good Reason to steer clear of milk trucks... I have a Tanker Endorsement on my CDL ans I too wasn't aware that milk trucks didn't require baffled tanks...

Were you granfathered in under CDL?

Unbaffled tanks is a huge part of getting the tanker endorsement.

 

[schmism]

our VFD recently sold our old tender (tanker). It was an old converted diesel hauler that carried 4500gal. sold for like $3500 to one of the local construction companies that is using it for a water truck. Had an on board PTO pump to pump off the water

 

[orezok]

One of these would work for you. But, they are over $500K.

 

[yankee dog]

One of these would work for you. But, they are over $500K.

I'll take two of those!

Actually, early in the posting someone mention applying dow flake dry. That has me kind of interested.

I have passed on the information you guys provided so far and I really appreciate the help. It has given me info that would have taken me hours to figure out on my own.

Gonna start doing my homework on the dry application as well as some type of water truck/tanker. I agree, $tainless is the way to go. Need to look at milk trucks as well.

I think anything less than 2000 gallons (2 miles) is going to be impracticle. YD

 

[Duffster]

I'll take two of those!

Actually, early in the posting someone mention applying dow flake dry. That has me kind of interested.

I have passed on the information you guys provided so far and I really appreciate the help. It has given me info that would have taken me hours to figure out on my own.

Gonna start doing my homework on the dry application as well as some type of water truck/tanker. I agree, $tainless is the way to go. Need to look at milk trucks as well.

I think anything less than 2000 gallons (2 miles) is going to be impracticle. YD

How far away is your source of brine?

If close enough I would think it would be cheaper to pick up your own brine than it would be to make it.

 

[Taylortractornut]

I just saw a crying shame crackeaded neighbor just hauled of a milk tank for 500 dollars scrap. I wasnt aware that a milk tank wasnt baffled. On many big sites ere if a water truck isnt baffled its not allowed on te job because of the rocking.

YD I have run those water wagons, tese were made from old scrapers. THey could get interesting in some places lol.

 

[captaincrab55]

Were you granfathered in under CDL?

Unbaffled tanks is a huge part of getting the tanker endorsement.

I took the test about 20 years ago... I don't plan on driving any tanker rigs, but I will still review it... This Forum is Great, that one can learn something every day...

 

[flyingcow]

They are not enough less safe to not use them in this application. Baffles make no difference in a full load and the OP will only be at a partial load for a very short period of time when offloading. Milk truck are probably one of the best options for the OP. They are made of SS, readily available and have a large capacity.

If baffle are that big of a deal there are other ways to baffle a tank, like baffle balls.

I've driven milk tanker/truck for 20 yrs(note my user name). I've run a 4200 gal, 5000 gal truck mounted tanks, one open tank, no baffles. Now i haul a 8200 gal tractor trailer. Tank is two compartment, 4100 gal each. No baffles. It takes about 10 farms to fill my trailer. I know all about the slosh factor( surge), easy to get used to.
These tankers are not cheap, but it would be my first choice, anything else will rot out quickly. Looking at the amount of brine they are using, tanker trailer would almost be a must. Manpower costs would be high with anything smaller. just my .02 cents.

Experiment with dry flake as noted before. I've used it on my driveway, works good, but it's only 650ft, not 34 miles. You would need tons of it. Than you're into storage costs( +permits?), whether its bulk or bag. But might work. You have about $24,000 to $32,000 in doing now. Might find with increased labor/equipment costs doing it yourself, but it's worth looking into. Good Luck.

 

[some zilch]

old milk trailers should be readily available used for not much more than scrap price, especially if it has some damage (part of tank smashed in, but still "water-tite"). around here, there are hundreds wasting away in fields and truck yards.

 

[crazyal]

The truck in my Avatar is an old fire truck (hose truck). I bought it from a local town garage. They gutted the back and installed a 2500 gallon polly tank to do exactly what you're looking to do for dust control on the dirt town roads. After one season they decided it was cheaper to get a trailer and mount the polly tank on it. The cost of gas, maintenance, registration, and insurance just made it cheaper to use a trailer. Granted that International is a large gas engine and gets as low as 2 MPG. The cloride rusted all the steel and aluminum
in the back of the truck, nasty stuff.

I thought I read you had a dump truck, is it a mason dump or something larger? A 1 ton may be able to pull a trailer with 2000 gallons of water but we're talking in the range of 10 tons. I know I would feel safer with something larger. Don't worry about baffles. You are going to fill that tank full, drive to the section of road you want to do and then slowly drive while watering until empty. At what point would you have to worry about water sloshing around?

 

[tessiers]

I had never heard that before and was curious as to why milk trucks don't have baffles, so I did a google search on "milk truck baffles." Apparently they don't have baffles because it makes them harder to clean. I also noticed a lot of information on how milk trucks and other non-baffled trucks are more likely to be involved in roll-over accidents and how they are harder to drive than a baffled truck, even for commercial drivers.

The reason I was always told was because the truck would be full of butter by the time it got to the dairy. They are not baffled but every one I ever saw had 2 or 3 seperate compartments

The other thing is the liquid manure spreaders are heavy, it takes a "big" tractor to handle 3000 gallons, I wouldn't want to haul it behind a truck, trucks depend a lot on the toung weight to make them handle better. In most manure spreading operations where manure is hauled long distances (5+ miles) the manure is hauled with tank trucks.

 

[flyingcow]

The reason I was always told was because the truck would be full of butter by the time it got to the dairy. They are not baffled but every one I ever saw had 2 or 3 seperate compartments

The other thing is the liquid manure spreaders are heavy, it takes a "big" tractor to handle 3000 gallons, I wouldn't want to haul it behind a truck, trucks depend a lot on the toung weight to make them handle better. In most manure spreading operations where manure is hauled long distances (5+ miles) the manure is hauled with tank trucks.

The only reason for open tanks with milk trucks is because of was because of washing procedures. Spray balls have to put into tanks to wash. Or tankers have them already inside of tankers, but it's all about the cleaning/washing. Trust me..you can't make butter sloshing/driving around.

The OP has alot of calcium to spread....S/S tanker is the only way to go. Big trailers to do it. 34 miles is a long ways to go. Good luck. Trailer truck is the better way to go. My 2 cents