Boom Float for Snow Plowing?

[Song Dogger]

I have a 2019 5610 with a 96" Bobcat v-plow and a Bobcat SB240 72" snowblower. I planned to float the boom while using these implements on my mile long dirt/gravel road with a high crown and plenty of twisting, undulating terrain. But, I just read the manual - Bobcat does not recommend boom float for anything except leveling loose material while driving in reverse. I'm sure the concern is boom damage.

I do have the flotation kit on the v-plow, so it floats laterally (left and right) 10 degrees, but not up and down. The snowblower is fixed, no flotation any direction.

Anyone plow snow with the boom in floating position? If so, seen any issues, good or bad? As a newbie, is floating the boom even the best way to do this?:confused3:

 

[BoylermanCT]

My plow has a chain going from the top of the quick attach plate to the plow frame. If I tilt the plate forward, the chain is slack, and the plow floats. I do all of my plowing in float like that. I keep the loader arms about 12" off the ground. If I need to pick up the plow blade, I tilt the plate back, and I can quickly pick up the plow, much faster than picking up with the loader arms.

 

[DEWFPO]

I plow with an 84" Bobcat snow blade and a 72" Bobcat SB200 on my Series D 2009 5600 on our curving and undulating paved driveway. We also have lateral cracks in the driveway where the blade and the blower's edge abruptly stop sometimes. I use the boom float ALL the time. It's the only way to get a clean scrape and get good traction on the steeply sloping 12% grade north facing grade. I know where most of the cracks are and I approach them slowly and curl up to pass over them and then curl back down. I have unwittingly hit them abruptly bringing the 5600 to a complete stop numerous times. I've been doing this since late 2008.

I don't however float my boom on gravel driveways that I clear for neighbors.

DEWFPO

 

[Blaszer]

I have a 2019 5610 with a 96" Bobcat v-plow and a Bobcat SB240 72" snowblower. I planned to float the boom while using these implements on my mile long dirt/gravel road with a high crown and plenty of twisting, undulating terrain. But, I just read the manual - Bobcat does not recommend boom float for anything except leveling loose material while driving in reverse. I'm sure the concern is boom damage.

I do have the flotation kit on the v-plow, so it floats laterally (left and right) 10 degrees, but not up and down. The snowblower is fixed, no flotation any direction.

Anyone plow snow with the boom in floating position? If so, seen any issues, good or bad? As a newbie, is floating the boom even the best way to do this?:confused3:

Nice machine and attachments... you really went all in LOL

I don't have a toolcat, but in my L6060 I run a 96" straight FEL mounted blade, I will float it to the pavement, then pull it out of float and give it a tap of lift, and that way I get a good scrape, but take some of the weight off the edge of the blade, and it is easier on the moldboard trip when I hit an expansion crack in a concrete driveway.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

My plow articulates plowing and so I don't use boom float. However, pushing snow is pretty easy work for a loader.

 

[Ford850]

As most others have said, you want the blade to float. That allows plenty of weight for clean scraping with a blade that size, and adds the weight of the FEL to the front axle for much better traction and steering. My plow is similar to Eric's above, but just a little older.

 

[Fallon]

Nice machine and attachments... you really went all in LOL

I don't have a toolcat, but in my L6060 I run a 96" straight FEL mounted blade, I will float it to the pavement, then pull it out of float and give it a tap of lift, and that way I get a good scrape, but take some of the weight off the edge of the blade, and it is easier on the moldboard trip when I hit an expansion crack in a concrete driveway.

Same, L4060HSTC & previously L3200. If you float the loader you usually loose steering & often end with the front tires well off the ground. The plow on my old L3200 had rotational & vertical float. Worked good when things froze up but still plowed a lit of gravel if it was soft. The plow on the new machine is fixed (hydraulic angle though). You plow a LOT of gravel with it & dont clean as well. Ran it 2 seasons so far. Was planning on rebuilding the mount to give me vertical & some rotational float. You want as much weight as possible on your tires for traction & steering. Only the minimum required weight on the plow to get it to cut into the snow enough.

 

[laurencen]

on my 2005 series A toolcat I run both the bobcat V blade and the snowblower, all the driveway is gravel, with the snowblower if the snow is deeper than a foot I lift it a couple inches off the ground and blow, coming back in float sunning on the skids to clean up, the V blade I run in float on the skids, most times tipped back to prevent it digging in

 

[Thomas]

My plow attach to bucket almost like you have and I don't use float,if you raise loader see what the distance from plate until plow lifts..should be couple plus inches should enough.

 

[ruffdog]

The Snowsport plow I use on the front has the float feature built in so I DON'T float the boom.

 

[Song Dogger]

Sounds like some use float, whether it be the boom or built into the plow, and some don't. So far, though, nobody seems concerned about boom damage using float in forward motion (Bobcat recommends reverse only). So, I'll give it a try both ways, with and without boom float, and check results. Maybe I wind up floating the boom in shallow to normal snow depths, but in the deeper stuff, maybe I lift the plow a bit so the front wheels support its weight to improve steering and keep me out of the deep borrow ditches - even if it means plowing a second time to clean up.

One thing I failed to mention - I have Groundz Keepers (2 inch pipe, Groundz Keeper Snow Plow Attachments from Crystal Steel House) installed over the v-plow cutting edges, so that should lessen the tendency for the plow to gouge into the gravel/dirt surface when in boom float mode. And reduce boom stresses.

 

[Song Dogger]

Floating the boom increases traction? I like that! But, wouldn't lifting the boom put more weight on the front axle and give better steering traction?

 

[Song Dogger]

I plow with an 84" Bobcat snow blade and a 72" Bobcat SB200 on my Series D 2009 5600 on our curving and undulating paved driveway. We also have lateral cracks in the driveway where the blade and the blower's edge abruptly stop sometimes. I use the boom float ALL the time. It's the only way to get a clean scrape and get good traction on the steeply sloping 12% grade north facing grade. I know where most of the cracks are and I approach them slowly and curl up to pass over them and then curl back down. I have unwittingly hit them abruptly bringing the 5600 to a complete stop numerous times. I've been doing this since late 2008.

I don't however float my boom on gravel driveways that I clear for neighbors.

DEWFPO

Sorry, should have included DEWFPO's quote that I'm responding to. Anyway, DEWFPO, floating the boom increases traction? I like that! But, wouldn't lifting the boom put more weight on the front axle and give better steering traction?

 

[DEWFPO]

Sorry, should have included DEWFPO's quote that I'm responding to. Anyway, DEWFPO, floating the boom increases traction? I like that! But, wouldn't lifting the boom put more weight on the front axle and give better steering traction?

Lifting the boom on an even surface would increase traction, but if your scraping an uneven surface with the boom locked it can lift weight off the front wheels. That's been my experience. I use boom float all the time when clearing snow. If I get stuck, I just lift the boom a little bit to transfer more weight onto the front wheels.

DEWFPO

 

[Song Dogger]

Lifting the boom on an even surface would increase traction, but if your scraping an uneven surface with the boom locked it can lift weight off the front wheels. That's been my experience. I use boom float all the time when clearing snow. If I get stuck, I just lift the boom a little bit to transfer more weight onto the front wheels.

DEWFPO

I get it, makes sense. Thanx for clarifying.

 

[zzvyb6]

Doesn't your plow have skid shoes on each side ? Set them down an inch or so. Then use float. The skid shoes will follow the road contour so the pitching of the tractor won't dig up swells and valleys. This also prevents the binding and digging of the plow when you have it set at a high angle. My 8'er is frame mounted and I run it at 45 degree angles each way.

 

[Fallon]

Float on the boom puts most (half?) The weight of the loader/boom & all of the weight of the plow on the plow & not the wheels. Leaving the boom fixed leaves a lot of weight on the front tires for traction & only the weight of the plow on the plow.

 

[Spudgunner]

Almost 100% of my snow removal is over "roadmix"...basically a combo of compressed 3/4" crushed material and sand. Until that material really froze-up solid, I would almost never float the blade due to dig-in. Even after a thorough freeze-up I'd still almost never float the blade. Ultimately I got rid of my blade and now I use my blower (SB200) exclusively. With that, I'll float it when on blacktop or concrete occasionally, but I don't ever float that heavy-assed thing otherwise.

 

[Song Dogger]

Almost 100% of my snow removal is over "roadmix"...basically a combo of compressed 3/4" crushed material and sand. Until that material really froze-up solid, I would almost never float the blade due to dig-in. Even after a thorough freeze-up I'd still almost never float the blade. Ultimately I got rid of my blade and now I use my blower (SB200) exclusively. With that, I'll float it when on blacktop or concrete occasionally, but I don't ever float that heavy-assed thing otherwise.

They are hefty, aren't they? My v-plow with the flotation kit is about the same weight as my SB240. My road material is similar, 3/4 minus crushed limestone with all the fines in it. It packs like concrete after a couple rains, but the surface will soften up under a wet snow and can peel right off. I'll just have to experiment with float vs fixed boom and adjust to conditions. Lots of good advice here to try, can't wait to give it a go.