craigw
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Just got a Kioti CK20 w/FEL and BH. Need to start thinking about a box blade. What manufacturer would you recommend? Size, with hydro?
Thanks,
Craig
Thanks,
Craig
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BoneheadNW
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From what I understand, Bush Hog makes decent accessories.
Just do a search on Bush Hog for a dealer near you.
Bonehead
Just do a search on Bush Hog for a dealer near you.
Bonehead
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I would go right back to your Kioti dealer and get the Kioti branded one. It is made by Midwest, which is what I have. I think you'll find several Midwest fans on this board.
twinstackram
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I got a Wallace from rural king,seems to be built pretty good,
I also have the Midwest made Kioti BB15-48, but you CAN go with the 60" box, it'll work on the CK20 as my dealer has done with great success. I was surprised that it could pull the 5', and I would have bought a five if I'd tried one out when I bought.
The 4' is working great, and is holding up well under lots of abuse. John
The 4' is working great, and is holding up well under lots of abuse. John
psuedofarmer
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purchased mine through the kioti dealer (BB30-84).. also a midwest and have been very happy with it. used it extensively to rehab 5+ a of old field .. it's a must have implement.
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Bob_Skurka
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Craig, Midwest is my favorite make of non-PTO powered implements largely because they do a good job of balancing price & quality. They have great back blades, box blades and landscape rakes. All the adjustments can be made without tools on their versions with tilt and offset features. There are other brands that have more features like hydraulic lifts, rollover blades, etc. Midwest makes the blades under their own brand name, as well as private lable units for large dealers and for manufacturers such as Kioti. They are made in Illinois. They make 3 series of box blades, the 15 series, which is the lighter weight units for sub-CUTS and small CUTs (but they are still very well made). The 20 series which is their standard duty line. The 30 series which is their heavy duty stuff. All appear to be made to the highest standards, the 30 series is just bigger, badder and heavier.
On some of their lines (like rakes) they substitute the "0" for a "2" on some products, so a "22" would be a "20" series and the second "2" means it has the tilt feature.
While there is a lot of talk about Midwest, there are some other excellent brands out there. Befco is awesome (and I think they have the best rear finish mowers on the market). Bush Hog, Gannon, Land Pride are among some of the other premium brands. With box blades you really want the heaviest thing you can buy (within reason) and use effectively with your tractor. Look at the brands your dealer sells, any of the good brands will serve you well. Box blades all look similar, but it is not uncommon to find the lower priced brands weigh 100# to 125# less than the premium brands of identical size.
On some of their lines (like rakes) they substitute the "0" for a "2" on some products, so a "22" would be a "20" series and the second "2" means it has the tilt feature.
While there is a lot of talk about Midwest, there are some other excellent brands out there. Befco is awesome (and I think they have the best rear finish mowers on the market). Bush Hog, Gannon, Land Pride are among some of the other premium brands. With box blades you really want the heaviest thing you can buy (within reason) and use effectively with your tractor. Look at the brands your dealer sells, any of the good brands will serve you well. Box blades all look similar, but it is not uncommon to find the lower priced brands weigh 100# to 125# less than the premium brands of identical size.
Av8r3400
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Great, Thanks to all for the reply's. Next Question, What size implements (box blade and rotary mower) would you suggest for my CK 20? 48", 60", 72"? I have some clay and a lot of hardpan in the non rainy months (May-Sept never rains) in northern California. 3 acres total, 2 acres pasture with weeds and field grass. Befco has a dealer 18 miles from me.
Thanks,
Craig
Thanks,
Craig
Bob_Skurka
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I am often conservative in sizing implements, especailly for other people due to the fact that each of us has our own particular conditions. You said you have some clay, I would suggest that you not go any larger than a 48" box blade. I have a 5' box that I use with a 30hp tractor and I have heavy clay, it doesn't stop the tractor but it will occasionally grunt and groan. I've used the 5' box blade with my 24hp tractor and had it stopped several times with the tires just spinning. But my ground is really heavy clay. I just got my new 48" box blade and have not tried it yet. But with my experience, I'd say 48" is the right size. If you have sand you might be able to go bigger. If you are not using the scarifier teeth much, then you can go bigger.
As for the rotary mower, I'm not sure what you mean. Generally a rotary "cutter" is a heavy duty mower for clearing fields. A "finish" mower is a large grass cutter used for maintaining lawns. Are you looking for a lawn mower or a field mower? Either way, I'd be looking at about 48" units given that you have roughly 15 pto hp. You might be able to use a 60" finish mower deck, I can choke a 60" deck when I hit a patch of thick clover on my 24hp tractor, so it really depends on how lush or sparce you lawn is. There are light duty 60" rotary cutters, but realize they are not going to be very effective at cutting down saplings that are 2 or 3" diameter with that amount of available PTO hp. Generally, you would use a smaller rotary cutter than you would use a finish mower. Also, my personal disclaimer, I am not a fan of buying large implements that force me to "go slow" or take "half cuts" because that means it would actually take me longer to do the job than if I properly sized the implement to the task. Consider you conditions and your tasks when following anyone's advice about the size of the implement to purchase. We all have different experiences.
As for the rotary mower, I'm not sure what you mean. Generally a rotary "cutter" is a heavy duty mower for clearing fields. A "finish" mower is a large grass cutter used for maintaining lawns. Are you looking for a lawn mower or a field mower? Either way, I'd be looking at about 48" units given that you have roughly 15 pto hp. You might be able to use a 60" finish mower deck, I can choke a 60" deck when I hit a patch of thick clover on my 24hp tractor, so it really depends on how lush or sparce you lawn is. There are light duty 60" rotary cutters, but realize they are not going to be very effective at cutting down saplings that are 2 or 3" diameter with that amount of available PTO hp. Generally, you would use a smaller rotary cutter than you would use a finish mower. Also, my personal disclaimer, I am not a fan of buying large implements that force me to "go slow" or take "half cuts" because that means it would actually take me longer to do the job than if I properly sized the implement to the task. Consider you conditions and your tasks when following anyone's advice about the size of the implement to purchase. We all have different experiences.
KAB
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I use a 5' Boxbalde without any problems behind my CK20HST. I can fill the box to the point where it is overflowing without a problem.
I have used a 5' RC behind it also. In open field that had not been cut for quit a while I was able to go full speed (low range of course /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) when the ground permitted it. Same speed as the 5' RFM. When I got into heavy brush I took smaller bits. Had to back into it, to heavy to go forward.
If I was buying one today I would buy a 5' and if the cutting got to hard, take a smaller bit.
Kurt
I have used a 5' RC behind it also. In open field that had not been cut for quit a while I was able to go full speed (low range of course /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) when the ground permitted it. Same speed as the 5' RFM. When I got into heavy brush I took smaller bits. Had to back into it, to heavy to go forward.
If I was buying one today I would buy a 5' and if the cutting got to hard, take a smaller bit.
Kurt
