Box Scraper Box Scraper or Rear Blade?

   / Box Scraper or Rear Blade? #1  

dwolf29

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I want to level an area in my yard, for a Corn Hole court. So, this is a very important job. Its a graded lawn. Black dirt under. I plan to remove about 12'X6' of material, down to about 10", drag it over to the lower side.
The court is 35' x 6' in dimension. Will reseed it when I'm done....

What is the best tool for the job?
 
   / Box Scraper or Rear Blade? #2  
A rear blade will cost a couple hundred and be able to do that. A box blade will triple the price but maybe get it done faster. Are there plans for dirt moving later on where you live. Box blades work great accompanied by a front bucket.

Maybe it is a Minnesota thing, but what in tarnation is a Corn Hole court?
 
   / Box Scraper or Rear Blade? #3  
This topic comes up, and is chewed, every three weeks. Here are numerous threads from the T-B-N archive:

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   / Box Scraper or Rear Blade? #4  
You should also consider a $300 Ratchet Rake bucket attachment for this small job, only going down ten inches.

This is another thread from the T-B-N archive:

I own both a Ratchet Rake and a Rollover Box Blade.

I like the Ratchet Rake, which I recommend based on 600 hours experience.

This post concerns Ratchet Rakes Vs. light Box Blades, such as the 60" Land Pride BB1260/346 pounds/69 pounds per foot.

I searched for the weight of kubota L3301 bucket but could not find a number. I presume L3301 bucket weighs approximately 240 pounds, extrapolating from other kubota specs. 68" Ratchet Rake weighs 88 pounds. Adding 240 + 88 = 328 pounds, pretty close to 346 pounds of BB1260 Box Blade.

In addition, the (operator controlled) weight of the FEL frame bears on the Ratchet Rake. Likewise, weight of the Three Point Hitch bears on the Box Blade. FEL frames weigh much more than ( 3X? 4X?) Three Point Hitch components. So, including some FEL weight, I guesstimate that ground contact pressure on Ratchet Rake and BB1260 would be at least equal, perhaps greater pressure on the Ratchet Rake.

Further in Ratchet Rake's favor you have articulation of bucket/RR combination in two planes from the operator's station and 1-1/2" serrated teeth on the Ratchet Rake.

Box Blade can be raised and lowered hydraulically from the operator's station. Box Blade angle of attack is adjustable via the Three Point Hitch Top Link, but not from the operator's station. Standard Box Blade does not have rippers, standard is a smooth cutting edge.

Ratchet Rake is capable of tearing up sod with its serrated teeth, the initial operation in much grading. The Ratchet Rake will not pull as large a load as a Box Blade but it may pull 40% of capacity of BB1260 per pass, with faster cycles. Ratchet Rake is more intuitive in operation than a Box Blade, which requires considerable experience to operate efficiently.

This is why I feel the Ratchet Rake is superior to light Box Blades for LIGHT grading.

This is a novel assessment of the Ratchet Rake. Subject to revision and modification.

When I have heavy grading to do, I mount my 60"/625 pound (125 pounds per foot) Bush Hog (brand) Rollover Box Blade on the tractor's Three Point Hitch AND the Ratchet Rake on my FEL bucket.


Ratchet Rake is sold by the T-B-N store, button at top of this page.

VIDEO: ratchet rake brush clearing - YouTube
 

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   / Box Scraper or Rear Blade? #5  
I had to google it. Please keep us posted on how the court turns out
 
   / Box Scraper or Rear Blade? #6  
I want to level an area in my yard, for a Corn Hole court. So, this is a very important job. Its a graded lawn. Black dirt under. I plan to remove about 12'X6' of material, down to about 10", drag it over to the lower side.
The court is 35' x 6' in dimension. Will reseed it when I'm done....

What is the best tool for the job?

You can use what ever you have to move this small amount of dirt. Then use a string and flat shovel to get to finished grade.
 
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Corn Hole is a bean bag toss type game... LOL
 
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You can also consider a $300 Ratchet Rake bucket attachment for this small job, only going down ten inches.

This is another thread from the T-B-N archive:

I own both a Ratchet Rake and a Rollover Box Blade.

I like the Ratchet Rake, which I recommend based on 600 hours experience.

This post concerns Ratchet Rakes Vs. light Box Blades, such as the 60" Land Pride BB1260/346 pounds/69 pounds per foot.

I searched for the weight of kubota L3301 bucket but could not find a number. I presume L3301 bucket weighs approximately 240 pounds, extrapolating from other kubota specs. 68" Ratchet Rake weighs 88 pounds. Adding 240 + 88 = 328 pounds, pretty close to 346 pounds of BB1260 Box Blade.

In addition, the (operator controlled) weight of the FEL frame bears on the Ratchet Rake. Likewise, weight of the Three Point Hitch bears on the Box Blade. FEL frames weigh much more than ( 3X? 4X?) Three Point Hitch components. So, including some FEL weight, I guesstimate that ground contact pressure on Ratchet Rake and BB1260 would be at least equal, perhaps greater pressure on the Ratchet Rake.

Further in Ratchet Rake's favor you have articulation of bucket/RR combination in two planes from the operator's station and 1-1/2" serrated teeth on the Ratchet Rake.

Box Blade can be raised and lowered hydraulically from the operator's station. Box Blade angle of attack is adjustable via the Three Point Hitch Top Link, but not from the operator's station. Standard Box Blade does not have rippers, standard is a smooth cutting edge.

Ratchet Rake is capable of tearing up sod with its serrated teeth, the initial operation in much grading. The Ratchet Rake will not pull as large a load as a Box Blade but it may pull 40% of capacity of BB1260 per pass, with faster cycles. Ratchet Rake is more intuitive in operation than a Box Blade, which requires considerable experience to operate efficiently.

This is why I feel the Ratchet Rake is superior to light Box Blades for LIGHT grading.

This is a novel assessment of the Ratchet Rake. Subject to revision and modification.

When I have heavy grading to do, I mount my 60"/625 pound (125 pounds per foot) Bush Hog (brand) Rollover Box Blade on the tractor's Three Point Hitch AND the Ratchet Rake on my FEL bucket.


Ratchet Rake is sold by the T-B-N store, button at top of this page.

VIDEO: ratchet rake brush clearing - YouTube


Thank you, this was incredibly helpful. I'll investigate this...
 
   / Box Scraper or Rear Blade? #9  
Played quite a few games this weekend... we love setting the course up in different (challenging) places. Most of the time it's where the shade is :) Around the apple trees was fun (branches snagged one or two bags). We just call it "Mountain Corn-Hole"...

The most fun was on our deck, could only get 30 feet from hole to hole but it was much better since we had more "opportunity" for scoring... That and we had a few old farts that had trouble reaching the board with the bean bags.

Back to you... :dance1: How much elevation change are we talking about? Box blade will do it faster (rippers are almost a must have) but a blade could get the job done. Heck, even a FEL could do it by itself (might touch it up with a metal rake). Have you used a box blade and/or rear blade before?
 
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   / Box Scraper or Rear Blade? #10  
For flat work I would choose a box blade over a regular blade every time. Much easier to use. That being said as others mentioned no reason you couldn't do this with the loader.
 
 

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