Brake Problems

   / Brake Problems #1  

Robert1948

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John Deere 5101E
I have a John Deere 5101E Cab tractor that I bought with about 300 hours on it. It was used and the warranty had run out before I purchased it from my John Deere dealer.
Just after I bought it, it would lose power and I could barely get it back to the barn on a low idle. My dealer came and looked at it 3 times and said I had bad fuel. So fuel and filters
were all replaced. After I paid for three service calls, it still had the same problem. Finally, I had it taken into the dealer and they said I needed a new fuel injector pump--$3000.00. They did
give me a small discount--I paid $2500--and that did seem to fix the problem. Now, I have a brake problem. I was pulling my 15 foot batwing and got to the end of the field and was going to turn around.
I pulled out into the road at the end of the field and started down hill to back up when I realized I didn't have any brakes. I kicked the PTO off and began to roll down the hill. Thank goodness there was
nothing in my way. I had to let the tractor roll all the way to the bottom of the hill to a flat spot in the field before it would stop. The brake pedals were stuck at the top and would not let me engage the
brakes at all. It wasn't like they went to the bottom and I could pump them. They were stuck at the top and would not depress at all. I nursed the tractor back to the house and let it set over night. This morning
the brakes would depress and are now working fine. There is a valve behind the firewall that the pedals are supposed to activate. When I got back to the house and reached up inside to feel that valve,
it was hot. I checked my hydraulic fluid and it was fine. I think that pulling a 15 foot batwind gets the fluid hot and since the brakes work off the hydraulic system, I'm wondering if this causes the brakes to
be inoperable. This is really unsafe. If I had been headed toward a ditch or trees yesterday, I could be dead. As with my fuel injection pump that went out after only a few hours, it is likely that Deere will
take no responsibility. I did tell my son about this problem and told him if I get killed because of brake problems, he should get a lawyer and sue. I doubt, however, that Deere would care. We have used John Deere's
on our farm since my granddad bought the first JD40T in 1955. I have rebuilt several of the old two cylinders but I can tell you that John Deere as a company and the reliable tractors they use to make is no more.
 
   / Brake Problems #2  
Can see that you are upset, but hope you get to the bottom of the problem and get back to running again. Maybe someone will read your post and have an answer ready for you.
Tell us more about the tractor.. gear, hst, ??
Air temperature when mowing with the batwing.
Was it in gear when suddenly was coasting down hill?

Keep us posted as you tear into the problem. Hope you have the service tech manual to use.

Welcome to TBN. We'll give you all the help we can.
 
   / Brake Problems #3  
Welcome to TBN. Hope you get ahead of the troubles you are having with the tractor. Welcome.
 
   / Brake Problems #4  
Welcome to TBN
JD has been utilizing that type brake system for a long, long time. The brake valve body is replenished with oil from hyd system & utilizes hyd oil as brake fluid. Do you have any idea how hot your tractors hyd fluid was during brake failure. If brakes fail again I suggest to immediately move engine throttle to idle position & attempt to downshift trans if applicable to help lower tractor forward speed.
 
   / Brake Problems #5  
Too bad to hear about those headaches.
 
   / Brake Problems #6  
Too bad he disappeared. Maybe a troll? Or the son is now seeing a lawyer....
 

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