Broken Seat Spring.....HELP!

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schlichting

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I broke one of the springs in the suspension part of my seat in a JD 4310....I tried to find a part to replace it, but they only had the entire seat suspension for $430 listed. I took the crazy thing apart...what an adventure that was, and now I need to find a spring to replace the broken one. I suppose I should replace the shock as well....but sitting on the tractor without that suspension seat really stinks. Any ideas on what I can do to fix it would be appreciated!
 
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McMaster Carr is a good source for all kinds of things like that.
 
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I saw your seat suspension on the JD On-line parts site. Here's what I'd do:


1: If just the end broke off, soften it over a torch and wind a new pigtail on it.

2: If it broke in the middle, take the good spring out and hang it from a wall hook, fence post, loader bucket, don't matter.

Take a heavy object: cement block, iron weight, floor jack, etc. whatever it takes to stretch it about and inch or so.

Get over to Home Depot, Lowes, TSC, ACO, Farm & Fleet, whatever and find an equivalent spring based on the rate. This means for the length you need, get it to stretch the same amount. A good spring scale would certainly help in this deal.

If you can't find a 'pretty close' equivalent, make one up from a garage door spring chosen for which the rate is about the same for the length you need. These stores carry a full line of springs with rates and lengths suitable for all farming equipment. I even found one perfect for the tail pullout on my windmill, there. You can wind a pigtail on the end of it by softening the end where you cut it with a propane or other gas torch. Get it red hot and wind it with a pliers or vice grips.

I've had to do this quite a few times, so its second nature for me now.

Check the shock absorber out for leaks while you are at it. A bad damper could have put a heavier strain on the suspension causing the springs to be over strained.

Might want to cut back on the Big Macs until the seat suspension recovers from surgery....
 
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Grammer makes most of John Deeres tractor seats,look them up online the have a rep in the USA,that can fax or e-mail you a parts breakdown

Tommy
Affordable Tractor Sales
 
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The big macs, and I suppose many other things, like being 6'6" and 300lbs cannot be easy on that poor little suspension. Thanks for the advice.....it would be cool if I could get a beefed up suspension so I won't have this problem again.....
 
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Air Shocks!
 
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Well.....I still need help. I have tried talking to John Deere and they will only sell me an entire suspension for $430...not just the spring that broke. I have tried getting in touch with companies that sell springs and have not had any luck....I have tried talking to Grammer and they said they can't sell to individuals, and wouldn't have what I need...they get them from Germany. I also found out that the suspension that I have on my 4310 is probably not made by Grammer, because it is not labeled as such, and most have told me that if Grammer made it, they would put their name on it. So anyone with any ideas????
 
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Do you have a picture of it and some dimensions?
 
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The big macs, and I suppose many other things, like being 6'6" and 300lbs cannot be easy on that poor little suspension. Thanks for the advice.....it would be cool if I could get a beefed up suspension so I won't have this problem again.....
These seats are not made for us. I've broken three now. The scissor designs are just no good since the scissor multiplies the forces. Trying to suspend 300 lbs with lateral force on a low angle scissor is just stupid.

I tried air ride, the compressors fail.

The best bet so far has been the old vertical spring style seats with the adjuster in the back. Think old JD type. I have so far used two of those as replacements on other stuff.

Shame they only make seats for little guys. My doc says that losing weight for me would have to start with the bones and he bets I have at least 150 lbs of those leaving not much room to pare muscle and fat. Blubber fat and big are two different things.
 
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Well.....I still need help. I have tried talking to John Deere and they will only sell me an entire suspension for $430...not just the spring that broke. I have tried getting in touch with companies that sell springs and have not had any luck....I have tried talking to Grammer and they said they can't sell to individuals, and wouldn't have what I need...they get them from Germany. I also found out that the suspension that I have on my 4310 is probably not made by Grammer, because it is not labeled as such, and most have told me that if Grammer made it, they would put their name on it. So anyone with any ideas????
Been down that road before too. They don't make replacement parts they intend to sell. They mean for you to buy a new suspension.
 

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