Budget-friendly machine for 15 acres in Maine?

   / Budget-friendly machine for 15 acres in Maine? #1  

Colgate2004

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Hi all,

I've been a lurker here on TBN for a while, anonymously reading dozens of threads, and I've been incredibly impressed with the knowledge of the members and their generosity in sharing it. Thank you all so much for that.

Like so many other first-time posters it seems, I'm new to tractors and looking to buy my first one, and looking for advice about which types/sizes/models would be most appropriate for my application.

My wife and I bought 15 acres in Maine last year, and we're about halfway through building a garage & small living space on the property. About half an acre of it is cleared and I'm planning to clear another half acre or so of brush and thin new-growth trees. We have a short (300' or so) paved driveway, then a long (half-mile maybe?) snaking, winding dirt road through the woods that is currently passable in a small 4-wheel-drive vehicle in the summer and fall months, but due to the steep hill is completely impassable in the winter and "mud season" (I know this because our 4WD Chevy S-10 with nice big off-road tires is currently stuck in the snow and mud at the bottom of the hill! :ashamed:)

The uses that I anticipate for my eventual tractor are:
- bush-hogging the cleared areas every year or so,
- moving around large quantities of brush,
- chipping that brush with a PTO chipper, although I could possibly use a separate dedicated chipper
- moving around buckets of wood chips, dirt, and a bit of gravel/crushed stone,
- digging a few trenches for buried pipes/conduit/electrical cable,
- trying to level out the dirt road as best as possible in the steep sections (although that may be impossible due to shallow bedrock)
- maybe finish-mowing a small area, although I might just get a separate small mower for this.

Based on those things and the threads I've already read here on TBN, it seems like the things that I would want in a tractor are:
- FEL w/ bucket (& perhaps grapple?)
- backhoe (with thumb?)
- R4 tires
- ability to use attachments: chipper, bush hog (is that more correctly called a "rotary cutter"?), finish mower, log splitter, etc.

Oh, and we unfortunately made a huge oversight in the construction of our garage and the overhead doors are only 7' high, so I'll need a folding ROPS. :ashamed:

Also, of course, I don't have all the money in the world to spend and ideally I'd like to get something (even if it isn't my "forever" tractor!) for a budget of $15,000 or less, which as far as I can tell from reading means a CUT, perhaps in the 25HP range, and a used one at that.
Based on this (admittedly VERY preliminary research!), one model I had my eye on is a New Holland TC24 (or Boomer 24... I'm not sure what the difference is? Is the TC just an older notation for the current Boomer series?).

I would very much love to hear everyone's thoughts though, both if that's to tell me I'm right, or to tell me I'm an idiot for even considering it. :)

Thank you all so much in advance for your help!

EDIT: I forgot to include this, but I understand from previous reading the importance of considering local dealers... if one manufacturer has a good dealer nearby and another one doesn't, that could be good reason to go for one brand over the other. I totally understand this. Luckily it seems like most of the major brands have dealers nearby, although I haven't yet visited them in person and don't yet know enough to be able to judge how good they are!
 
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   / Budget-friendly machine for 15 acres in Maine? #2  
First off, I don't think you need a Backhoe. the only thing on the list is ditch digging. You can rent or hire for that once, and save a ton of money. Most any modern tractor will do what you want for all the others. The next question is new or used. Used is a bit tricky, but you can get a lot of power for not a lot of money. New, you're going to really be limited at 15K. I might look used in the 30HP range. May be a bit more than you need, but the hills probably justify it. Now, what dealers do you have around you? Look and see what's out there.
 
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Hi Tony,

Thanks for the feedback. I was thinking the backhoe not only for digging the trenches, but also for trying to level out the dirt road... seems like it would be easiest to do that with a backhoe rather than the FEL bucket since you can't adjust the roll angle of the bucket... or is there something I'm missing?

As far as dealers, I know there are JD, NH, and Kubota dealers nearby. Nearest Kioti dealer is about an hour away.

Thank you!
 
   / Budget-friendly machine for 15 acres in Maine? #4  
Hi Tony,

Thanks for the feedback. I was thinking the backhoe not only for digging the trenches, but also for trying to level out the dirt road... seems like it would be easiest to do that with a backhoe rather than the FEL bucket since you can't adjust the roll angle of the bucket... or is there something I'm missing?

As far as dealers, I know there are JD, NH, and Kubota dealers nearby. Nearest Kioti dealer is about an hour away.

Thank you!

Take a ride over to Watermans in Sabattus. I just bought a Massey Ferguson from them after researching for months.
 
   / Budget-friendly machine for 15 acres in Maine? #5  
Nope, BHs are for digging holes, not leveling roads. Road leveling (grading) is for FELs and grader blades. A BH will just dig up the road, and can only do a very small area. It would take forever. If you back drag with the loader, or grade it with a rear blade, it goes a lot quicker. You're scraping up material and redistributing it into the low areas. If you have hydraulics you can tilt and angle for better control as well. You don't want to dig into the road to re-grade it, you want to make multiple passes over the same area to get it level and smooth. You are correct though in thinking that the FEL is not the tool for digging. It is not meant to dig holes. It can take the top couple inches off, but that's it. FELs are for scooping dirt that is already loose and above ground level, and for hauling things.
 
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Take a ride over to Watermans in Sabattus. I just bought a Massey Ferguson from them after researching for months.

Thanks! I don't know anything about Massey Fergusons, but just looking at their website very quickly it looks like the 1726E or 1734E could be perfect. What did you get?!

Thanks!
 
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Nope, BHs are for digging holes, not leveling roads. Road leveling (grading) is for FELs and grader blades. A BH will just dig up the road, and can only do a very small area.
Ah, okay, thank you for the correction. I have a lot to learn here... :)
If the road itself is off-tilt and therefore the whole tractor is off-tilt, I don't quite get how you can level it with the bucket unless you can tilt the bucket, but I know I've got a lot of learning to do!

If I really can pass on the backhoe, that certainly would save me a lot of money!

Any particular models you'd recommend?
 
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Ah, okay, thank you for the correction. I have a lot to learn here... :)
If the road itself is off-tilt and therefore the whole tractor is off-tilt, I don't quite get how you can level it with the bucket unless you can tilt the bucket, but I know I've got a lot of learning to do!

If I really can pass on the backhoe, that certainly would save me a lot of money!

Any particular models you'd recommend?

You can't level an off tilt-road with the FEL. You need a rear blade with an adjustable side link (the tilt in top 'n tilt) This makes the blade off level - voila, problem solved. You can also adjust the side link to get the desired effect, but it's a lot harder to attain without hydraulics. The FEL is not the best tool for grading. The best is a box blade with scarifiers and hydraulic top and side links, but that's expensive.

You do have a lot to learn. So did I when I was new here. What I haven't learned first hand myself I've learned reading here. There is a ton of information on this site. Great people too.

I will obviously recommend Kioti, but I won't say it's the best fit for you. Kubota, Massey, New Holland, Mahindra, JD, LS are all good too.
 
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I'm also still looking for a tractor now - similar price range. Massey Ferguson and Mahindra offer a 5 year powertrain warranty which appeals to me. I test drove the MF 1726E HST and it was a nice economy machine for approximately $16,500. The 1734E HST has additional HP and but has to meet Tier IV emissions requirements. Basically, the new tractors over 25 HP have all this new emissions equipment which may or may not work correctly and cost you money down the line. The 1734E is about $2000 more but since you are dealing with hills then you may want/need a more powerful machine than the 25 HP machines. I am looking at HST transmissions due to being an inexperienced equipment operator, I find them easy to operate. I really liked the Mahindra Max 26xl also, but it is smaller. I have a smaller and mostly flat property and I am not sure I need the larger (heavier) MF 1726E to do what I need. Decisions lol.

A backhoe is a very expensive add-on. In the budget you are talking about this is not in the equation. Mowing decks are expensive and are not supported by the MF economy line because they require a mid mount PTO. You'd be better off with a separate mower I think then trying to get a machine that does everything.

The used tractor market seems risky to me. Local used inventory is low here and I can't know for sure if the tractor was well cared for. Tractors seem to hold their value and are still expensive used. I am mostly looking at new equipment at this point.
 
   / Budget-friendly machine for 15 acres in Maine? #10  
I was thinking the backhoe not only for digging the trenches, but also for trying to level out the dirt road... seems like it would be easiest to do that with a backhoe rather than the FEL bucket since you can't adjust the roll angle of the bucket... or is there something I'm missing?

I concur with TJP89 in Post #5. Ixnay Backhoe. Front End Loaders (FEL) are articulated, however you cannot crown a road with just an FEL and bucket.

Here are two inexpensive bucket attachments for grading and trenching, both sold by the T-B-N store at top of this page.

https://www.google.com/search?clien...e:+tractorbynet.com+site:www.tractorbynet.com

https://www.google.com/search?clien...e:+tractorbynet.com+site:www.tractorbynet.com

Here are some used tractors to look at, arranged in proximity to Zip Code 04330:
Industrial Tractor | eBay
 

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