Building Fire Water Trailer

[Furu]

Building Water Trailer for fire suppression

I am in the process of building/putting together of a DNR approved fire suppression water trailer. One of the suppliers that I am looking at for some components is Cascade Fire Equipment. On their web site ordering page they have a place for coupon/discount codes.

Does anyone have any experience with Cascade fire Equipment? Or have a coupon code for them.

Design concept follows:

What I am looking at is a 325 gal tank (thinking about 500 gal). DNR requirement is a min 300 gal. I will be putting it on a trailer. If I go with the 325 gal tank the trailer payload will be just over 2800 lbs. Obviously if I go with the 500 gal weight will be higher. A Honda pressure pump WH-20 and 1" forestry fire hose with a Ranger Plus dual flow nozzle. Plan on using quarter-turn fittings so as to be compatible with DNR.

 

[Attono]

Mmmmmm, fire-water good!!!

A 500gal tank would weigh in at 4000 lbs, just for the water. Seems like a lot of weight to be carting around in remote areas.

 

[78FarmHand]

Re: Building Water Trailer for fire suppression

Furu,
Two things, first ya might check with the DNR regs on the use of a pump that is not firefighting spec-ed. Also, have you thought of building a skid unit, basically your pump and tank on steel skids to be able to remove from your trailer or truck, thus making the trailer usable for other things.
I’m the fire chief for our volunteer fire department, I’ve never dealt with Cascade, but they look to have everything needed.
78FarmHand
Nathan~

 

[creekbend]

I don't know if will aid you in finding ideas or not. I have a trailer made from the bed of a full size dodge Pickup. I put a 275 gallon plastic storage container on it. BTW, the container is the type that has a metal cage surrounding it and was used for transporting shampoo. I bought it for $35.00. I have a Titan gas powered pressure cleaner and I placed it on the trailer. I take this system to my Burnpile everytime I burn it. I make sure that I have my Burning Permit im my possession at all times. This system works for me. Best wishes.

 

[dfkrug]

I have a trailer made from the bed of a full size dodge Pickup. I put a 275
gallon plastic storage container on it.

I am considering a similar project. I have a PU rolling chassis and a 3' steel cylindrical tank (150 gal).
That will be plenty of weight at about 1500-1600#, full. I have been wondering what kind of
pump to get. I never considered a pressure-washer. Is the volume sufficient for your use?

I was thinking more like a "trash pump", if I can find a cheap one.

 

[forgeblast]

I just saw that gemplers has different firefighting rigs on skids,
this one 7.8 GPM 200-gallon Firefighting Skid Sprayers - GEMPLER'S goes in the back of a pickup truck.
7.8 GPM 200-gallon Firefighting Skid Sprayers - GEMPLER'S

 

[creekbend]

I am considering a similar project. I have a PU rolling chassis and a 3' steel cylindrical tank (150 gal).
That will be plenty of weight at about 1500-1600#, full. I have been wondering what kind of
pump to get. I never considered a pressure-washer. Is the volume sufficient for your use?

I was thinking more like a "trash pump", if I can find a cheap one.

My pressure washer is a Titan Industrial Commercial Pressure Washer - TPW 2200. It has 2.5 GPM flow and weighs 76 pounds. This system works for me. Best wishes regarding your project.

 

[Furu]

Re: Building Water Trailer for fire suppression

Furu,
Two things, first ya might check with the DNR regs on the use of a pump that is not firefighting spec-ed. Also, have you thought of building a skid unit, basically your pump and tank on steel skids to be able to remove from your trailer or truck, thus making the trailer usable for other things.
I知 the fire chief for our volunteer fire department, I致e never dealt with Cascade, but they look to have everything needed.
78FarmHand
Nathan~

Thanks Nathan

I am working with the POC of the western district DNR fire control on the requirements. I was initially a bit nervous about the the Pump specs but he said that was the one he had in the back of his truck and that all I had to do was comply with the state law which is 20 gpm minimum, 500 feet, 1/4 inch orifice and 300 gal minimum with "sufficient" pressure (now there is a vague term). I told him "yes I understand the law requirement, but I want your opinion as to whether my plan is adequate" as I was concerned about the friction loss over the length of hose and the pressure loss at the nozzle. He told me I was over thinking it and that the pump was adequate for the task. He also offered to take a look at the setup after I put it together. I told him I was an "A-R" engineer type and he laughed. I actually am considering running 1 1/2 hose for 200-300 feet of the 500 requirement as the loss is so much less than the 6 psi/100 with the 1 inch. He said they do grass fire mop-up at 25 psi all the time so I should be OK as I will be over that worst case. Seems kind of light to me but what do I know. Yes I am going to skid it but the trailer will probable be dedicated to the setup anyway.

Guys thinking of the trash pumps they can move a lot of water but the pressure is minimal and may not run a nozzle. Consider that in your plans.

 

[FredH]

In the early and mid '90's , as a Volunteer firefighter / EMT with Applegate District 9 in Southern Oregon , We dealt with Cascade Fire a lot both as a Fire Department and as individuals , Never had a issue and Local store was great with Service and Help .

Fred H.