Buying a Tractor

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bigred90

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G'day to you all. First time on this forum, so bear with me. I'm looking to purchase a tractor in the next little while (25-40hp), but I'm on the fence as to what brand I should get. I'm not a fan of JD (personal reasons). I'd like to keep it to my local dealers. Case, NH, Massey, McCormick, JD are the local choices. I'm open to other brands too, of course, not interested in Chinese brands tho. I'm from good ole Canada, so a snow blower & a loader is a definite must in the winter. Other attachments will be decided as time on. Tiller, maybe a backhoe, rough cut/finish mower are just some options
 
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Welcome from VA. Good luck with your new tractor purchase.
 
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I'm looking to purchase a tractor in the next little while (25-40hp), but I'm on the fence as to what brand I should get. I'd like to keep it to my local dealers. Case, NH, Massey, McCormick, JD are the local choices. I am in Canada.

The fundamental importance of TRACTOR WEIGHT eludes many tractor shoppers. Tractor weight is more important identifying tractor capability than tractor horsepower.

The most efficient way to shop for tractors is to first identify potential tractor applications, then, through consulataton, establish bare tractor weight necessary to safely accomplish your applications. Tractor dealers, experienced tractor owners and TractorByNet.com are sources for weight recommendations.

Bare tractor weight is a fundamental tractor specification easily found in sales brochures and web sites, readily comparable across tractor brands and tractor models, new and used. Shop your weight range within tractor brands. Budget will eliminate some choices. Collect a dealer brochure for each tractor model in your weight range.

I spreadsheet tractor and implement specs, often a revealing exercise which cuts through specification clutter. I have a column for cost per pound.

Selling a used tractor is easy. Selling multiple light implements in order to buy heavier, wider implements for a new, heavier tractor requires a lot of time. Depreciation on implements is worse than depreciation on a tractor.

A quality dealer, reasonably close, available for coaching, is important for tractor neophytes. Most new tractors are delivered with a glitch or two requiring correction. My Kubota dealer is six miles away. I feel my local dealer continues to add value to my equipment after eight years. Dealer proximity is less important for those experienced with tractors and qualified to perform their own maintenance.

  • Twenty-five horsepower tractors weigh from 1,700 pounds bare weight to 2,900 pounds bare weight.
  • Forty horsepower tractors weigh from 3,500 pounds bare weight to 4,500 pounds bare weight.
When considering a tractor purchase bare tractor weight first, tractor horsepower second, rear axle width third, rear wheel/tire ballast fourth.


Brand? Models to look at or avoid? Buy new or used?

The Three Point Hitch tractor has been marketed in the USA since 1939 -- 82 years in 2021.

The basic design is generic.

Kubota and Deere have most of the market through 6,000 pound bare weight tractors in the USA.

The up and coming tractor brands in the USA are Korean: Kioti, LS and Branson. There are other Korean brands. You must critically assess dealer stability while shopping minor brands.

Korean manufacturing labor is paid 50% of what Deere pays its union work force. Japanese manufacturing labor is paid 70% of what Deere pays its union work force. Labor costs influence tractor prices.

BUY ENOUGH TRACTOR​
 
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Canada eh? A little more detail. Big place it is. Welcome from Sask.
 
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"G'day" eh? Well, welcome to TBN from Downunder.

Adding a backhoe, later on, to your initial tractor purchase can be problematic. If you can, and you really want/need one, then buy it as part of your tractor. You can then dismount it for when it's not required. Other than that, I'd rent one for the times required.

Enjoy the site, Mate.
 
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We moved onto the property in 1982 and I purchased a brand new Ford 1700 4 WD that same year. I have a mile long gravel driveway to maintain - had to instal a mile and a half of barbed wire fence - plant hundreds of small trees. It did just fine and in 2009 I traded the Ford in and got a brand new Kubota M6040. That's 27 years with the Ford.

I was able to take on the larger projects with the Kubota. I could plow the driveway snow without needing a 3-point blower. The new tractor is heavy enough, with its heavy Rhino rear blade, to clear the snow berms that form along the driveway. I can now move large rock and pine logs with my grapple. My HD land plane grading scraper( LPGS ) works very well behind my Kubota.

All in all - category 2 implements & an appropriate tractor will do their job faster than Cat 1 implements. Recognize I said faster, not necessarily better.

A picture of my M6040 Kubota. Heavy duty Land Pride grapple & WR Long 3rd function valve. 1550# of RimGuard in the rear tires. 1050# Rhino 950 rear blade - 8 foot. Total weight with this setup - 10,100#.

My property is very open with stands of ancient Ponderosa pines threwout the property. Access anywhere is not a problem with a larger tractor.

I would suggest this. Make a list of all jobs/projects you envision to do with a tractor. How much time can you devote to these projects. What implements will you need along with a tractor. Remember the purchase of a tractor is not like the purchase of a new car. With proper maintenance a tractor can last well beyond a single lifetime.
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G'day to you all. First time on this forum, so bear with me. I'm looking to purchase a tractor in the next little while (25-40hp), but I'm on the fence as to what brand I should get. I'm not a fan of JD (personal reasons). I'd like to keep it to my local dealers. Case, NH, Massey, McCormick, JD are the local choices. I'm open to other brands too, of course, not interested in Chinese brands tho. I'm from good ole Canada, so a snow blower & a loader is a definite must in the winter. Other attachments will be decided as time on. Tiller, maybe a backhoe, rough cut/finish mower are just some options
Are you only open to a new tractor? The choices are boundless, but anything less than ~8 years old will have a DPF, which while I can appreciate that it will “save the planet”..... ahem.... it will also reduce reliability and of course, cost more.
You might want to consider something lightly used from the tier 3 era. Really not much difference in features or capability. In fact, I think some of the older stuff is built better and heavier.....and no stinkin DPF! Plenty of good low houred used tractors out there. Save yourself enough money to buy all your attachments, too :)
You can also say you helped save the environment, too. When you do NOT buy a new tractor, you do NOT contribute to the pollution caused by manufacturing a new tractor!
 
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Perhaps one of these tractors will work for you:
6 year warranty transferable & 2 year bumper to
bumper warranty

willy
 

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