Buying ck30 tomarow-brush hog? woods hoe?

450EXC · Mar 23, 2005

Good news-buying ck30 hst tomarow, to be delivered Fri.
1) Can I mow yard with brush hog and still get decent results. I can't aford both brush and finish mowers. I will keep 42" rider to trim around house.
2) Was leaning towards Woods backhoe w/ new 4 pt connection. No under caraige to mess up clearence. $500. more. 2 weeks wait.
3) Should I buy grill guard? $ 150.
Thanks for everyones help, Larry

KiotiJohn · Mar 23, 2005

I believe you'd have to go with the Woods Loader in order to use the 4pt hookup, at least it looked that way on the CK20 my dealer had set up with Woods. As far as I'm concerned, that set up is tops. There was no looseness at all, no wobble like on my Kioti backhoe. I think the Kioti is slightly easier to take on/off, but not that much, you pull two pins and disconnect the hoses. On the Woods, you take off two bolts, lift it off the bottom hooks and disconnect the hoses. Not much more work, but a little.
The Kioti subframe mounts tend to loosed up with use unless you weld the bolts solid. Not a big deal, but the Woods is def. better in my opinion.
If you buy the grill gaurd, and you probably should if you ever work in woods, have a welder put some expansion metal in the openings as the holes are too big to be of much help. Weld it in and repaint, good protection.
I often mow my "yard," as opposed to lawn because I have so many weeds, with my brush mower when I just don't feel like messing with the rider. If you angle the front a little higher than you would for brush cutting, it does a very decent job. You just have to be careful not to put it too low or you may gouge up your lawn. But yes, it can do a decent job. For a real lawn, I would only use the mower you have.
Welcome to TBN, and I hope you're always able to find the help you need here. John

albmn10 · Mar 23, 2005

Hello 450, congratulations on your new tractor. .. The Woods BH75 is a very well made backhoe... I looked at them as well at my dealers when i bought my ck30. The operator station was very comfortable and the design was tight and solid. I dont know if you need the woods loader or not, i have the woods 1012 quick detach loader myself and its also very well made and quite a bit more capable then the k130. They gave me a brush guard with my woods loader, dont know if thats standard or just my local dealer. Either way good luck and im sure youll love your new tractor.. Matt

KiotiJohn · Mar 23, 2005

( They gave me a brush guard with my woods loader, dont know if thats standard or just my local dealer. Either way good luck and im sure youll love your new tractor.. Matt )
I believe it comes with it as I've seen them on every tractor that had a Woods loader on it. John

450EXC · Mar 24, 2005

Thanks for the help. I'll get the woods hoe and the 6' finish mower. CK30 hst, fel, hoe, mower, pallet forks - 24,500.

KiotiJohn · Mar 24, 2005

( Thanks for the help. I'll get the woods hoe and the 6' finish mower. CK30 hst, fel, hoe, mower, pallet forks - 24,500. )
Which loader does that include? If it's another loader besides the Woods, I'd be interested to know how they hook up the 4pt. backhoe to it. Send us pics when you get it, and congratulations! John

450EXC · Mar 24, 2005

My dealer said it would work with the Kioti loader. (good because I like that curved design). It is a brand new woods connection dealer says - just came out in February. They are behind on production - have to wait an extra week, 3 weeks total. I'll be talking to him in the morning and ask again then I'll let you know. He said the new curved boom for the larger tractors should be out in the fall but I cant wait that long.
Maybe I should buy the brush mower also, might be too tempting to take the finish mower out into the rough.
Is $1,150 a good price for a Woods bb60 brushbull w/ clutch?Larry

KiotiJohn · Mar 24, 2005

( Is $1,150 a good price for a Woods bb60 brushbull w/ clutch?Larry)
Yes, it's a good price for that mower, and it'll last and last, and parts will be avaiable forever! Of course, we never know what the future holds, but Woods still makes parts for stuff that's 40 years old. I recently posted pics of the woods groundbreaker 6000 BH with the curved arms. I was quite impressed with the 4pt hook up and the curved arm boom. What's more, the controls feel very substantial and easy to feather.
I, myself, would much prefer a brush mower over a finish mower, but then, I don't regularly cut my yard with my brush mower, but I have, and it's not too bad. The other way around though may be catastrophic for your finish mower! John

450EXC · Mar 25, 2005

Yep, the Woods hoe will fit with the Kioti loader. He said it dosnt matter whats up front. I believe its indepentant of the loader. Dealer said I could still get that brush mower later for that price so maybe later this summer. Ill stay away from the rough stuff for now.
Thanks again KiotiJohn and everyone else for all the help.
Larry

KiotiJohn · Mar 25, 2005

( Yep, the Woods hoe will fit with the Kioti loader. He said it dosnt matter whats up front. )
Maybe you can see in this picture why I thought it had to be hooked up to a Woods loader. It just seems as though they're made to go together. The Kioti BH bracket that goes on the loader hangs much further down and the subframe attaches there. That's why I wasn't sure you do it. I'm glad you can do it with anything. John