bx or zero turn

   / bx or zero turn #1  

grizzjeeper

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Fairfield Maine
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Kubota l3400 HST
I want your thoughts on what to do. I have roughly 3 acres to mow and am doing so with a cubcadet lawn tractor with 50 inch deck. its 26hp and only has a ground speed of 5.6MPH.. takes about 2 hours to mow lawn. Not a lot of trees but two Big willows and some big ditches near the road.

Borrowed freinds zero turn and mower complete lawn in under 1 hour. 48 inch deck but twice as fast.

I already have a kubota l3400 for loader work and backhoe work when i need it and its not normally stored at my home. Soo... I was thinking of a BX series with as large of deck as I can find? 72"? I know I will not have manuverability but figure with the larger deck it should offset the time? Plus I figure I can mow faster than 5.6 mph?

or should I just stick with the zero turn? Opinions please and feedback.

Be nice to have a smaller loader for the occasional chore istead of trailering the big boy over.
 
   / bx or zero turn #2  
Sounds like you have already justified and talked yourself into a BX.

If interest is only in grass cutting a zero turn is definitely the ticket. But you are also already appreciating the added benefits of a tractor.

Need to note the largest MMM for a BX is 60". For the most part on a maintained lawn you can cut at full speed which is about 8.4 mph. You will be able to determine this by cut quality and slow up a little if required on taller grass.
 
   / bx or zero turn #3  
TheFlatlander said:
Sounds like you have already justified and talked yourself into a BX.

If interest is only in grass cutting a zero turn is definitely the ticket. But you are also already appreciating the added benefits of a tractor.

Need to note the largest MMM for a BX is 60". For the most part on a maintained lawn you can cut at full speed which is about 8.4 mph. You will be able to determine this by cut quality and slow up a little if required on taller grass.


That pretty much sums it up. I have a Ferris 61" zero turn and can tell you, if mowing is the primary task, a tractor will not come close in speed or quailty of the cut. If I recall, the top speed is 11.5 mph on mine. I don't mow that fast but you can get around the yard and pass over the areas where the grass is not long. Plus they are just plain fun! :)
 
   / bx or zero turn #5  
How much would you use a BX and FEL on the property? That's what you have to decide. I mowed with a BX for 8 years, and just bought a 52" Toro commercial ZTR this spring (I kept the BX.) The Z mows much faster than the BX. If you are only mowing, the Z will do it faster and be cheaper to purchase.
Will
 
   / bx or zero turn #6  
I pulled a 60" Swisher trail mower with my 20HP Sears garden tractor for years to mow my 5 acres. That gave me about an 8' cut and I could drop the trail mower if I had to for finish work around trees. Fuel prices have made that a less attractive option, the trail mower and garden tractor each drink a big gulp of gas, the diesel is much more economical. But then a price difference of about $10,000 can buy a lot of gas.
 
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MarkLeininger said:
I pulled a 60" Swisher trail mower with my 20HP Sears garden tractor for years to mow my 5 acres. That gave me about an 8' cut and I could drop the trail mower if I had to for finish work around trees. Fuel prices have made that a less attractive option, the trail mower and garden tractor each drink a big gulp of gas, the diesel is much more economical. But then a price difference of about $10,000 can buy a lot of gas.

I have a 44" Simplicity Javelin zero turn, which is a higher end consumer unit. Its max speed is 6 MPH, so it is no where near as fast as the commercial units, but with all the stuff that I have to mow around, and not a lot of straight runs, 6 MPH is plenty. I also have a Kubota G1800S with all wheel steering and a 48" deck. It has a top speed of 8.5 MPH, so it can keep pace with a lot of commercial ZTR's. It takes me about the same time to mow my property with these two machines. A BX would take a little longer, due to less maneuverability. I haven't decided which machine will get sold, and which I'll keep, but I'm leaning toward the G1800S (to keep), as I prefer diesel, and it is a more versatile machine. I can put a front blade or a snowblower on it, where my ZTR is always only going to be a mower.

The main thing you need to ask yourself is if you want the additional functionality of a tractor or not. A commercial ZTR (or even a high-end consumer one) will probably mow as fast, or faster than the BX, depending on the property (amount of turning and edging), and will leave less push-mower/weed wacker edge. BUT, a ZTR will never do snowblowing, or FEL work.

You already have the L3400. If you don't need a tractor often for this property, just deal with having to go get the L3400 when you need it, and get a ZTR. But, if you are mostly mowing open areas, and are less in need of the maneuverability of the ZTR, and more in need of more speed, AND are looking for an excuse for a 2nd tractor (****, who here isn't) then get the BX and a 60" deck. The top speed of the BX (8.5ish if I remember) and a 60" deck should keep up with a faster ZTR and a 48" deck.
 
   / bx or zero turn #8  
i owned a commercial toro z master 100 w/19 kawasaki twin and a 52"sfs deck. outrageous manuverability, dangerously quick and gave me a superb quality of cut. alas, it was only a spring to fall machine.
i sold her and miss her, however i now own a bx1850. true- more money-
but a hughly more capable machine. i'm glad i switched over. you've got a tough decision--good luck with it. shrekbelly
 
   / bx or zero turn #9  
My grass cutters are ZTRs because of the speed and obsticles I have.
ZTRs were designed for speed and manuverability.

A tractor is good for everything but not best for any one thing, except for some 3pt attachments that a commercial designed machine was not ment for.
 
   / bx or zero turn #10  
Grass cutting hands down zero turn wins. I also mowed with a cub cadet for 12 years. Purchased a ZTR 3 yrs ago and will never look back would never even consider a MMM on a tractor. But I later picked up a BX for what it does best. So the best answer is both.
 
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