CAL 4n1 vs Long 4n1

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evanjohnson

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Anyone have any experience with a CAL 4n1 on a New Holland Tractor(TC40D)?
I'm looking and can't decide between a Long and a CAL on my "dream" tractor which I hope to order this next week.
Thanks,
John in SC
 
   / CAL 4n1 vs Long 4n1
  • Thread Starter
#3  
Is price about the same for both?
In the spec. sheets, it looks like the CAL weighs more than the Long for similar sized units?
CAL F21 68" at 905 lbs.

CAL F31 80" at 1020 lbs.

Long UJ2-72 72" at 515 lbs.

Are the CAL units overkill for a compact tractor?
Thanks,
John
 
   / CAL 4n1 vs Long 4n1 #4  
Interesting. I don't own one, but I would think you would want the lightest unit that could still get the job done, since the more it weighs the more it takes away from the FEL capacity.
 
   / CAL 4n1 vs Long 4n1
  • Thread Starter
#5  
Correction, after talking to CAL this morning, the CAL F-series is for TLB's.
The proper CAL is a 545 series/ 73" at 825 lbs- still much heavier than the Long!
Thanks,
John
 
   / CAL 4n1 vs Long 4n1 #6  
CAL 4n1 is great

I have the CAL 4-in-1 and the TC-40D/16 LA. A few things:

1) Yes, it is VERY heavy duty...and just plain heavy. If you want to pick up a full load of dirt, you'll need a big rear counterweight. Even with filled rear tires, I always attach my 900 lb box blade. (I was going down a slight slope one day with just the grader blade/a load of dirt and was a bit surprised when my rear wheels started to come up....drop that load!).
2) If you want a toothbar, you must order the CAL toothbar, as the lip profile is unique. (the Woods toothbar does NOT fit). I spent $30 on a new drill bit that is now very dull after drilling the two holes!
3) It uses the ATI quicktach, so you need to buy that too. But that is great because you can use other modern skidsteer attachments. I have the Rooter bucket and a sifting bucket on order.
4) My NH dealer (Klem's in Spencer, MA) did a great job of mounting the solenoid switchbox and thumb control on the inside of the joystick.
5) It is easy to take it off (quicktach and two hydraulic quick attach) but harder to put on because of the pressure on the hydraulic lines. Unlike the curl/boom, you can't release the pressure using the joystick on the "clamping" lines because the thumb control is electrical. So you have to wait 10 minutes or so before attempting to reattach the lines.
6) If you are interested in the Snowblower (with hydraulic spout), be sure they run the hydraulics to the same circuit as the "clamping" (instead of to the rear). It is really great to be able to control the lift, rotation, and spout from the joystick. Like a video game.

I fully recommend the CAL bucket. It is a beast. The "clamping" cylinders are very powerful...it is easy to grab a very full load of dirt or brush. Even cuts 3" or so limbs if you are so inclined.
 
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Re: CAL 4n1 is great

3. Will it work with the NH Quick Attach or are the mountings different for the NH vs the ATI?

I've talked to several dealers and no one seems to know.

Thanks,
John
 
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NH Quickattach

Great question, but I don't have an answer. NH didn't have a quickattach kit when I bought, so the ATI was the only option available (I bought the 4-in-1 and the tractor at the same time so the dealer made the decision for me). Try to find out if the NH quickattach can use "modern" skidsteer buckets. If so, you should be all set. CAL might know as well...

The thing I liked (after the fact, of course) about having the ATI version is that they claim support "Fits Universal-type skid steer attachments", for example:

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.rankineqco.com/products/ati/taqa.html>http://www.rankineqco.com/products/ati/taqa.html</A>

Of course, one wants to be certain before ordering, eh? I guess that is what I rely on my dealer for (to take that type of risk if things don't fit). For example, mine ordered the Woods toothbar for the CAL bucket thinking they are all "universal" (is there such a thing?). I took it home and tried it. Wouldn't fit. I called him and he ordered a new one from CAL and did a no-cost swap.
 

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