paulsharvey
Super Member
The Barndo craze, I do kinda get their hold up. You have split use generally, partly residential, partly commercial or ag. That would likely require a 1hr fire wall from floor to cieling, separating the uses, at a min. At the same time... I never built a home with a garage, do they require a floor to cieling fire wall?
We build a "Lumber Tree" once, a covered warehouse type structure, without walls, where the supports had racks that held lumber, at a White Cap. It took a long time to permit, and eventually the state fire marshal got involved, and declared it a "building without walls"; and required signage about no gas/diesel/propane vehicles could be stored under it. At first they wanted active fire protection (wet pipe sprinklers), which would have drastically increased the price.
I (though work) permitted something once. Got a call, a local real estate broker owned a small parcel in town, that had an existing residential access. He says, he's building a small pole barn, with a single bathroom, 1 concrete ADA parking spot, and gravel parking, but it's a pole barn to store real estate signs. OK, talk to boss and get his blessing; existing access is fine for his land use. About 9 months later, the "pole barn" is a music venue... So, the access should Not have been residential, it should have been light commercial. Not much to do after it's open...
That above is probably what building departments/zoning folks assume a Barndo is going to be. Starts as a 3000 sq ft of residential with 5000 sq ft od "garage"; and next thing, it's a small machine shop, with the "residential" being offices/drafting, and the "garage" housing manufactering
Just for additional info; my past experience is all commercial and/or multi family; and current is all "horizontal" construction; never built a single family home and never reviewed or permitted one
We build a "Lumber Tree" once, a covered warehouse type structure, without walls, where the supports had racks that held lumber, at a White Cap. It took a long time to permit, and eventually the state fire marshal got involved, and declared it a "building without walls"; and required signage about no gas/diesel/propane vehicles could be stored under it. At first they wanted active fire protection (wet pipe sprinklers), which would have drastically increased the price.
I (though work) permitted something once. Got a call, a local real estate broker owned a small parcel in town, that had an existing residential access. He says, he's building a small pole barn, with a single bathroom, 1 concrete ADA parking spot, and gravel parking, but it's a pole barn to store real estate signs. OK, talk to boss and get his blessing; existing access is fine for his land use. About 9 months later, the "pole barn" is a music venue... So, the access should Not have been residential, it should have been light commercial. Not much to do after it's open...
That above is probably what building departments/zoning folks assume a Barndo is going to be. Starts as a 3000 sq ft of residential with 5000 sq ft od "garage"; and next thing, it's a small machine shop, with the "residential" being offices/drafting, and the "garage" housing manufactering
Just for additional info; my past experience is all commercial and/or multi family; and current is all "horizontal" construction; never built a single family home and never reviewed or permitted one
