Can anyone ID these 2

[Toddao]

Looking for some info on these 2. The stock of one has "FAT 1946" and BA580 stamped it and same ba580 in barrel

 

[bcp]

Most had identification marks on the top front of the receiver or the on the left side of the receiver.

The top one is likely an Italian Carcano:
The ITALIAN CARCANO RIFLE

The bottom one is a 1893, 1894, 1896 Mauser of some kind.

Bruce

 

[Western]

Almost look Argentine?