Can We Save The Environment With Our Passion?

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I know everyone here loves tractors but the environment gets worst each day are there any way to reduce our wastes and etc?

Google Goes Green

Google have done that in their domain, we can too in ours!
 
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Save it from???

I try not to waste it, but when you see shows and articles in regard to saving the environment, they tend to be a bit radical in their thoughts and suggestions. Here in MD they have a big campaign to "Save the Bay", and the state taxes us in their effort to "save" it. I really don't like giving my hard earned money for the state to waste on things they think is going to save something that I didn't mess up.

Edit: just looked at the reference link, I don't believe it for one minute. I've been in some of the buildings that google is in, they are tenants and have no control over those facilities. Most new equipment is more powerful, and so does more with less power than what was before it, all companies can make this claim. Too many times if you did a true life cycle cost of equipment replacement, you aren't saving what you think you are. Green is a vague term.
 
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Can someone pass the diesel fuel?
 
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EARTH FIRST! We'll plow the other planets later.

In all seriousness, how can anyone born in the 50's like me say this country hasn't made extraordinary strides in environmental stewardship in the last 50 years. To me our biggest enviromental concern is imported insects, diseases and plant and animal species screwing up our woods and waters.
 
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EARTH FIRST! We'll plow the other planets later.

In all seriousness, how can anyone born in the 50's like me say this country hasn't made extraordinary strides in environmental stewardship in the last 50 years. To me our biggest enviromental concern is imported insects, diseases and plant and animal species screwing up our woods and waters.
Agreed...wait until these stink bugs reach Earth friendly California...there will be "Flip Flop shoes" warfare declared on them!
 
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Considering the number of climatic changes our good old earth has been through in it's day makes us pretty small potatoes.:)

Just think of what one good volcanic eruption can do. Similarly what a little sunspot activity can effect here.
 
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EARTH FIRST! We'll plow the other planets later.

In all seriousness, how can anyone born in the 50's like me say this country hasn't made extraordinary strides in environmental stewardship in the last 50 years. To me our biggest enviromental concern is imported insects, diseases and plant and animal species screwing up our woods and waters.

Agreed. People are more aware now than earlier and much has been accomplished. Still, a lot depends on one's personal philosophy or viewpoint.

The Google link certainly is an attempt to put a 'green' persona around a commercial enterprise, as would any savy marketing material. Still, they have installed solar panels and are using heat management technology in please note - 'Google designed facilities'. Since Google server farms comsume enormous amounts of electricity, of course they wish to emphasize their green efforts.

If you read about oil extraction from tar sands in Canada, or look at the issues surrounding natural gas and coal extraction in the Upper Plains States, there is cause for concern. In my own opinion, the more we can move away from fossil fuels, the better off we will be.

I don't consider that radical, just a realization that energy consumption comes with a price to the environment and fossil fuel derived energy is the most harmful. It is wishful thinking to ignore that.

To Forester2's point, since the 1950's we have primarliy dealt with point pollution issues, not global, cumulative effect problems. I think an effort is still needed to balance our needs against environmental degradation. The proof is in the pudding. If ongoing declines in environmental health can be documented, obviously there is still work to be done.

We need to be smart about it and not knee-jerk radically oppose or support everything. If environmental impact were part of purchase and use decisions, just like price and quality, that would be the most economical and least disruptive method of preserving the planet. More and more people are making decisions which include the environmental aspects of a product or it's use. That's really all it takes to make a huge difference.
Dave.
 
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