oh yeah... you can believe i have heavy equipment experience. i have used all types of equipment. it is my hobby and job. but anyway, about the pushing the trees, they are easy to knock over because they are mostly pine or small hardwoods(we own a 1500 acre pine tree farm so we have a "few" trees if you know what i mean) but once on the ground we have a 4 wheel drive new holland ts 110 with a loader that we can use to push em away with. that, along with a john deere 5400 with loader plus a box blade, is what we are currently using for this work so you can see my dilema. thanks for the reply and i will definately rent one before buying. also i attached a pic of what we work with, equipment and terrain. hope it helps with a reply. and suggestions of other models would be greatly appreciated. the only other ive looked at is a used john deere 450 and an old dresser."gotta love an old dresser."