Case DX-40 VS Kioti DK-40

[HK45]

Ok I知 trying to deicide between a Case DX-40 HYDRO loader and backhoe, or a kioti DK-40 HYDRO with loader and backhoe. I like both but they both have their advantage and disadvantage.

Case DX-40
Lighter then the kiotie 1,700 lighter
Power train made in Japan and everything else in USA
PTO is little higher then the kioti
Higher resale value

Kioti DK-40
Better price
More dealers in my area
Built Heavier then most machines in its class
A lot of standard futures
Great warranty



I like them both but I don稚 know if I need a machine that weights 7,000 pounds. My yard is kind of on a hill so I don稚 know if heavier is better or not. Also I知 looking at driving into people痴 yards and don稚 want to mess them up to bad that痴 why I like the case it is lighter. Any feedback would be great. Thanks

 

[IslandTractor]

I have a DK40se with a Woods BH90x. I like it alot and it is my second Kioti.

I understand your concern about weight. I was also concerned about weight because I store the tractor in an antique barn with a wood floor. However, in the end, I am going to end up adding weight (fluid ballast to tires) because the tractor is powerful enough to spin all four wheels. I haven't used the tractor in really muddy areas yet as I just got it last fall but I didn't have any trouble with leaving tire impressions after rain (ie. it does not seem too heavy for work in pastures etc) I've only used it in a lighter configuration (minus backhoe but added 600lb flail cutter) on what passes for a lawn at my summer place and it has done no damage.

 

[jinman]

Ok I知 trying to deicide between a Case DX-40 HYDRO loader and backhoe, or a kioti DK-40 HYDRO with loader and backhoe. I like both but they both have their advantage and disadvantage.

Case DX-40
Lighter then the kiotie 1,700 lighter
Power train made in Japan and everything else in USA
PTO is little higher then the kioti
Higher resale value

Kioti DK-40
Better price
More dealers in my area
Built Heavier then most machines in its class
A lot of standard futures
Great warranty



I like them both but I don稚 know if I need a machine that weights 7,000 pounds. My yard is kind of on a hill so I don稚 know if heavier is better or not. Also I知 looking at driving into people痴 yards and don稚 want to mess them up to bad that痴 why I like the case it is lighter. Any feedback would be great. Thanks

That weight difference seems like a lot, but I'll take your word for it. I know the Case weighs about #3500 lb without the loader.

I'd look at other things to make my determination. You need to drive both tractors and put them under load to see how they handle it. You also should look at layout and simplicity of operation. Where are pedals and controls located. Also, is the Kioti 3-cyl or 4-cyl. I know the N844 engine in the DX40 is used in skidsteer applications. It is a strong and smooth engine. It's big brother, the N844L, (same bore, but with a longer stroke) is used in turbocharged applications to achieve over 50 hp.

The final decision might come down to dealer support. Whichever dealer you feel best about is a big part of any decision.

I don't think you will go wrong with either tractor. Just figure out which works the best for you and go for it. They are both great tractors.

 

[IslandTractor]

That weight difference seems like a lot, but I'll take your word for it. I know the Case weighs about #3500 lb without the loader.

I did not comment on the weight difference but if Jinman is right about the #3500lbs for the Case (and that certainly sounds reasonable) then I can assure you the difference in weight is less than 1700lbs. The DK40se comes in bare at about 4100lbs. The loader and backhoe obviously add to that but I have trouble thinking that the respective FEL/BHs are significantly different in weight. 700lbs I could imagine as the difference between the DK and a comparable Kubota GL series tractor is about 500lbs. 1700lbs seems too large a difference.

 

[froggy]

According to the latest DX literature, the DX40 weighs between 3,252 and 3,433 lbs. depending on the transmission it has.

Kioti site shows the DK40 weighing between 4,130 and 4,202 lbs. depending on its transmisssion, too.

These weights are without FELs and backhoes. Case backhoe weighs @1,500 lbs. and loader w/o bucket is @800 lbs. Would think that the Kioti FEL and backhoe would weigh @ the same. So you are only looking at difference of about 700 lbs.

 

[Z-Michigan]

Both good tractors and very, very similar. Between those two lawn damage is mostly a matter of which tires you pick and how you operate the tractor, not a factor of the small weight difference (which gets smaller as you load the tires and attach implements). Also, the heavier frame doesn't matter much since NH has NO reputation for breaking frames (nor do I know of any major brand that does) and with HST you would be pretty hard pressed to damage a frame anyway. The rabbit/turtle switch on the NH is kinda nice, but I prefer the 3-range simple gear on the Kioti (if I remember its features right). That is just a personal preference. I also wasn't thrilled about the type and quantity of plastic on the NH, though it's a pretty small difference vs. the Kioti you're looking at.

In making my decision, I would be thinking:
1) How it fits you
2) How good the dealer is/seems
3) Price

 

[HK45]

I think I'm going to go with the kioti. The case cost a little more but they have a 5 year 0% which is nice. Im going to have to sit down and think hard about which one i want. The case dealer told me they are around 5,300- 5,400 in weight and the kioti was around 7,000. Do you guys feel weight is better? Where i live it is kinda of hilly and i will use it to work on some of my property and other people property so i don't want to damage lawns to bad.

 

[IslandTractor]

I just cannot see that there is such a great difference in weight. We now that the base Kioti tractor weighs about 700lbs more than the base Case. The Kioti KB2385 weighs about 1000lbs. I cannot find the weight of the KL401 but it must be between 600-800lbs. That would give the Kioti DK40se TLB a total weight of a little more than 6000lbs and not 7000lbs.

If the Case TLB weighs 5400lbs and the Kioti TLB 6000+lbs then there might well be a 600-700lb difference in weight but not 1700lbs.

 

[HK45]

I thought the same thing. Check it out on there web site. Also Rick told me it would be around 6,800 to 7,000 for tractor loader backhoe

 

[kozak]

I think I'm going to go with the kioti. The case cost a little more but they have a 5 year 0% which is nice. Im going to have to sit down and think hard about which one i want. The case dealer told me they are around 5,300- 5,400 in weight and the kioti was around 7,000. Do you guys feel weight is better? Where i live it is kinda of hilly and i will use it to work on some of my property and other people property so i don't want to damage lawns to bad.

HK45,

Weight is a very good thing. When you think weight, think TRACTION. That is one of the reasons alot of TBN'ers add weight on their 3 pt. hitch or fill their tires. Also, when doing FEL or BH work, the more weight you have the smoother the tractor operates & performs and the more you balance the weight between front & back, (assuming TLB equipped).

In so far as marking up lawns, not too sure what you will be using this Tractor for. (Small business on the side ?) However, whatever the tasks, when it is wet out it won't really matter if you have a 5,400 Lb tractor or a 7,000 Lb tractor, you will still leave RUTS. Here is another reason to go for more weight....if your worried about tearing up the turf you will need to go with Turf type tires which are wider & spread the tractor load over a larger footprint. Turf tires don't have an agressive tread, so the more weight, the more traction. With tires though there is always a trade-off. If you get snow in your area & it is hilly to boot, then you may want to consider the Industrial grade instead. (Industrials are a compromise between Turf & Ag type tires.)

Lots to think about. You will have to weigh (no pun intended) what your tasks are & when you will be doing them & then select a tractor accordingly. Both tractors would be awesome although I like the Case better.

I love weight on my Tractor though. It's a beautiful thing. The more weight the better.

Vic