Tires Changing Rear Tire Width

[swmich42]

Where is the correct jack placement, to enable me to remove both rear tire/wheel's, so I can swap their position. The dished wheel right/left swap will provide the added width I require. The only place I feel appears correct, is under the Rops attachment point, under rear axle, where there is a relatively flat spot. Only issue is I need another floor jack, since once placed in that position, there is no room for a floor jack stand. Any suggestions?

 

[beenthere]

Put the floor jack under the bracket that the drawbar slides through, to either side depending on which side you want to put the jack stand. Then move to the other side of the drawbar to lift to place the other jack stand.
Block the front wheels well so they cannot roll forward or back. Also, don't lift the tire more than just enough clearance to remove the tires. Do all loosening and tightening while the tires are still tight to the floor. Not while they are sitting on the jack stands.

Move slowly and safely.

Here is pic showing the bottle jack and jack stand. Floor jack works in same place just as well.

 

[swmich42]

Thanks Beenthere. Looks like a simple solution. I like to make sure before causing damage I could avoid. The dealership I stopped into on Saturday to inquire did not provide the type of service I am accustomed to.

I will work carefully and slowly.

 

[RoyJackson]

Thanks Beenthere. Looks like a simple solution. I like to make sure before causing damage I could avoid. The dealership I stopped into on Saturday to inquire did not provide the type of service I am accustomed to.

I will work carefully and slowly.

beenthere gave a great description on how to do it...

I'll just add to try to get a friend to help. If those tires are filled, they're heavy!! 2 guys can do much better. If those bolt holes don't quite line up, you might have to skid the tire a tad.

Good luck and be safe!

 

[dfkrug]

Where is the correct jack placement, to enable me to remove both rear tire/wheel's, so I can swap their position.

I just flipped my IND rears around on my 4300 yesterday. (I gained
only 1.25" inch width, however.)

What I did was use 2 scissors jacks, like the kind that comes with many
cars. I have a bunch of these and I love them in that they fit into tight
places, are hand-adjustable, and can be used in out-of-vertical orientation.
I put one under each axle housing, right at one of the bolt bosses. The
footprints of these jacks are smaller than my jackstands, so they do not
interfere with the tire. You can buy these jacks at AgriSupply for $15.

If you only lift the wheel so that it barely clears the floor, you can remount
them by starting one bolt without perfectly aligning the wheel, then rolling
the wheel around that one bolt until it settles onto the flange. If filled,
you can use a long steel rod for leverage.

 

[Interlaux]

Yep sage advice - SWMich you'll find that getting them back on can be a bigger challenge than where to put the "head" of the jack. The way a tractor (at least yours) is built makes it so "unitized" that so long as you jack on solid metal the tractor will lift it in a really predictable and safe way- its not a big issue. Just jack ONLY THE WHEEL YOUR CHANGING.
What my son showed me is that the butt end/lever of the jack is whats important.Put it so you can see whats going on as you lower. Swing it out so you can see the lugs so you can use the "line up one hole/lug let down and get er on" or some other highly engineered method to get those heavy buggers back home.

Do you have the 8 ways? I found the new 4xxx series makes you pay extra for them otherwise you stuck with 2 ways

Good luck and keep em wide and safe:thumbsup:

 

[dfkrug]

The way a tractor (at least yours) is built makes it so "unitized" that so long as you jack on solid metal the tractor will lift it in a really predictable and safe way- its not a big issue. Just jack ONLY THE WHEEL YOUR CHANGING.

The challenge is when you are swapping the rears around. You need to
have both off at the same time.

If I am removing only one rear wheel, then I use a rolling floor jack under
the draw bar bracket in the middle. Although, this will lift both rears
equally, the tractor will tip sideways when the wheel is removed. The
front axle provides no sideways stability since it pivots about its center
point. You can put wedges between the axle and subframe to stop this
action. You DO get some sideways stability if you leave the loader on
the ground, but I like to lift mine up to make the rear jacking easier.

If swapping the rears with only one floor jack, I first jack from the center as
above. Then I remove the wheel and place a jack stand under the wheel
flange. Then I move the floor jack as far to the other side as the remaining
tire will allow. Now jacking up to remove the remaining wheel has to be
done extra-carefully due to the side-to-side imbalance. That is why I have
moved to a 2-jack procedure.

 

[swmich42]

Thanks for the advice. I successfully reversed the rear wheels, and gained over a foot! (from under 6' to over 7') Measured PTO shaft to ensure correct length, then Managed to get the JD609 attached. I am at the outer limit for my sway brackets. I then wound up the RPM's, and was very pleased with how smooth this older unit runs. I took it over some soft grass, then some small trees. WOW what a unit. The Power and sheer mass pulverizes anything you can push over. I am amazed and very respectful, of the power this brush hog has. One thing I need to figure out is how to attach safety chains to the PTO shaft cover. This PTO shaft cover is substantial. (heavy steel with poly/plastic underneath. (next to revolving shaft) I also will be attaching the debris guards front and rear. (most likely will go with the less expensive rubber, since I have no need for the more expensive chains) All I need now is a large 3pt spreader; (to prep my crop plots with pelletized lime, and fertilizers) and cultivator/disc. (to work leaves/grass/manure/mulch into soil) I really appreciate all those that have contributed to help me out. I am amazed at the speed and force of these machines, when properly equipped.

 

[JD755]

Glad you got them swapped. Hard to find a reason to ever have tires in the narrow position.

Question on minor item. You show an E-Hydro for your 4700. Didn't think those came out until the 4x10 series. Either way, very nice tractor.

 

[Boeing]

Quick question fellas,
I just bought a Kubota 3010. Tires are in full narrow position. I want to bush hog trails and old logging roads thru woods so I thought narrow was good. My friends tell me that being in hills of Va. I should widen the stance for more roll resistance. Is there much difference in stablility? Thanks